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Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by russdill »

somenameforme wrote: post #43
ChadNauseam wrote: post #3

I remember some discourse saying they were not "trapped" in space (as in physically unable to get to earth safely), they just didn't want there to be only one american crew member on the ISS, or something along those lines. Is anyone on the ISS now, or did they all come home?

They were scheduled to stay there for 8 days and had Boeing's vessel proven flight worthy, they would have returned after 8 days. The messaging beyond that was just political in nature. They could have been rescued, but were left on the station until after the election. The situation resulted in significant issues for the next crewing [1] leading to some interesting things like the first time a Russian cosmonaut was…

I remember this Elon Musk guy who was spending hundreds of millions of dollars to get Trump elected. I hear he's involved in space somehow, imagine if he found out about this and was able to shame the Biden admin with this before the election. He would have gone absolutely wild with it.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by russdill »

game_the0ry wrote: post #280

Disappointed to see how politicized this issue has gotten, especially on HN.

I don't know how someone aware of the facts and timeline of the situation can read this:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1141790813395...

And say oh, yes, it's the people with TDS/EDS trying to set the record straight that have the problem.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by TimTheTinker »

llamaimperative wrote: post #489
TimTheTinker wrote: post #462

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as prescribed by the Constitution The constitution doesn't mention anything about any federal agencies. The Department of State didn't even exist until a 1789 law signed by George Washington. USAID was established by the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961. Its express purpose is to fund U.S. foreign economic and humanitarian assistance programs. If the majority of USAID money is going towards things that do not align w…

Congress controls the budget, it really is that simple. If I believe USAID is full of waste, fraud, and abuse, I’m free to express that at the ballot box where I vote for a congressperson who wishes to vote on the next budget accordingly. The executive has many dimensions of freedom with regard to federal agencies. “Existence of” and “funding of” are not among those dimensions of freedom.

> The executive has many dimensions of freedom with regard to federal agencies. “Existence of” and “funding of” are not among those dimensions of freedom.

I don't think the current administration actually abolished USAID or its funding; it just froze outgoing transfers from it. Some of the verbage used by Musk & others is exaggerated. They're playing to their voter base, unfortunately. It doesn't accurately describe what is technically or legally happening.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by majormajor »

grandiego wrote: post #390
Workaccount2 wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Elon recognized that he had the social skills of an NPC and had hired a PR team, we would probably all still adore him and likely he would still just be doing engineering company stuff. Take heed, if you have money, power, and poor social skills, hire people to manage it for you.

Sad world where people expects successful people to hire a PR team just to be liked.

Mostly people expects successful people to just live their lives.

Musk is DESPERATE to be adored and DESPERATE for influence and power outside the scope of his success.

Those are personal failings, not the failings of society.

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Post by tzs »

exodust wrote: post #364
indoordin0saur wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Before he took his recent (regrettable) turn he did pour his heart and soul (and personal fortune) into SpaceX for over a decade. If it weren't for SpaceX we'd be relying on the incompetent monstrosities of Boeing or ULA.

> recent (regrettable) turn It's only regrettable through the lens of partisan politics. DOGE is undeniably a good concept. You will notice governments around the world copying the method. That is, launching initiatives to audit everything, cut wasteful spending, expose corrupt spending, and trim bureaucratic inefficiency via external oversight. It would be regrettable not to undertake the task.

> You will notice governments around the world copying the method. That is, launching initiatives to audit everything,

Which is it? Are they copying DOGE or are they auditing things, because what DOGE is doing is not auditing. Auditing involves bringing in people who understand what they are looking at.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by majormajor »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #523
llamaimperative wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congress controls the budget, it really is that simple. If I believe USAID is full of waste, fraud, and abuse, I’m free to express that at the ballot box where I vote for a congressperson who wishes to vote on the next budget accordingly. The executive has many dimensions of freedom with regard to federal agencies. “Existence of” and “funding of” are not among those dimensions of freedom.

> The executive has many dimensions of freedom with regard to federal agencies. “Existence of” and “funding of” are not among those dimensions of freedom. I don't think the current administration actually abolished USAID or its funding; it just froze outgoing transfers from it. Some of the verbage used by Musk & others is exaggerated. They're playing to their voter base, unfortunately. It doesn't accurately describe…

Elected officials lying about what they are doing seems bad, by your line of thought about fraud and accountability and all.

Unelected ones - worse still?

The unsurprisingly-ignored central sin of the Trump administration for those who voted for it for reasons of "free speech" or "reducing government corruption" or "accountability" is that Trump and his circle do not actually believe in any of those things and are not acting in ways consistent with any of those priciples. Those are just the things they say to get votes so they can grab all the power they can.

Anyone opposed to government waste or corruption should be beating down the door to get Republicans to impeach Trump because he's trying to create a whole hell of a lot of corruption-and-waste-enabling precedents.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by sanderjd »

nailer wrote: post #370
sanderjd wrote: post #327

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"Authoritarian" is a philosophy of how to govern. It is orthogonal to whether the government was fairly elected. (It's true that many authoritarian regimes seek to eliminate or corrupt elections, but being fairly elected is compatible with being authoritarian.)

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This is simply incorrect.

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by llamaimperative »

TimTheTinker wrote: post #523
llamaimperative wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Congress controls the budget, it really is that simple. If I believe USAID is full of waste, fraud, and abuse, I’m free to express that at the ballot box where I vote for a congressperson who wishes to vote on the next budget accordingly. The executive has many dimensions of freedom with regard to federal agencies. “Existence of” and “funding of” are not among those dimensions of freedom.

> The executive has many dimensions of freedom with regard to federal agencies. “Existence of” and “funding of” are not among those dimensions of freedom. I don't think the current administration actually abolished USAID or its funding; it just froze outgoing transfers from it. Some of the verbage used by Musk & others is exaggerated. They're playing to their voter base, unfortunately. It doesn't accurately describe…

The term you’re looking for is “impoundment.”

They impounded funding. That’s exactly what they’re doing and it’s exactly what’s illegal.

Glad you don’t dispute Congress’s Constitutional role though!

Re: Crew-9 Returns to Earth

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Post by sophacles »

randomNumber7 wrote: post #511

So it didn't bo(e)ing into the ground yet most people here shit on Elon. I take that guy over those that killed 500 people by trying to save money on a sensor.

It turns out, no matter how hard you squint, no matter how many drugs you take, or how many times you smash yourself in the head with a hammer, the fact remains: Elon is a human person.

As such, he has many skills and many faults. This is something true of all humans.

It seems that two of Elon's skills are: hire rocket scientists and not insert him self too much in the process of rocket science to cause catastrophe.

Elon also has faults, and those are fair game to shit on.

An egotistical blowhard that lies about being good at video games like a third grader desperate for friends on the the playground can also be good at hiring rocket scientists. They are orthogonal facts and can both exist at the same time.

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