Wow, you have to have a university degree to run for election as president? That’s a wild law.
Why it is a wow?
Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president
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Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president
#52In other, recent, non-related news, Columbia University revoked the diplomas of some pro-Palestine protestors[1]. The CBS headline buries the lede, but revoking diplomas is not too low for American universities. 1. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/columbia-university-pro...
Their diplomas were not revoked for being pro-Palestine, they were revoked for seizing a building, trespassing and vandalism. That's a false equivalence to what is happening in Turkey.
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#53This is not only revoking his diploma, but establishing a very dangerous precedent in Turkey: "all rights are temporary and can be revoked on a whim"
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Do you not see how preventing your opponent from running for election is different from temporary measures to protect people in a pandemic that has killed millions?
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#54I am from Turkey and this really concerns me. If we don't protest this in the streets and fight back I am afraid we don't have any kind of law anymore.
Given that people are being arrested for the most stupid reasons in Turkey, I can understand people not wanting to put their life on the line. 10 years ago I could have seen people protesting (see Gezi park protests) but now ? Not really. What's worse is that somehow plenty of Turk are fine with it. Inflation above 100% for long time, crappy salaries, people can't even afford rents but the leader's party still get ab…
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "all rights are temporary and can be revoked on a whim" That is the basis on which practically everything I have purchased from American companies (or their subsidiary in a tax haven) exists.
Everything?? Or do you just mean digital media?
Everything connected to Internet
Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president
#56I am from Turkey and this really concerns me. If we don't protest this in the streets and fight back I am afraid we don't have any kind of law anymore.
Isn't this just the latest cut in your democracy's death by a thousand cuts?
I'd add also a thousand bullets, a thousand tortures, a thousand rapes, and a thousand days in prison for having a different opinion and expressing it.
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#57Wow, you have to have a university degree to run for election as president? That’s a wild law.
Why it is a wow?
Well at least in my opinion, it seems extremely undemocratic.
University education is a privilege that some people won’t be able to experience (financial constraints, having to care for relatives, …), and I don’t think it’s a unique qualifier for being a good president.
I think if people want to elect someone who didn’t go to university, they should be able to.
Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president
#58In other, recent, non-related news, Columbia University revoked the diplomas of some pro-Palestine protestors[1]. The CBS headline buries the lede, but revoking diplomas is not too low for American universities. 1. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/columbia-university-pro...
Their diplomas were not revoked for being pro-Palestine, they were revoked for seizing a building, trespassing and vandalism. That's a false equivalence to what is happening in Turkey.
2 questions:
1. Why now (for Columbia)?
2. Why now (for Turkey)?
The fact that it's in the realm of possibility that the answer is the same for both (political expedience) is a stain on America/Columbia U.
Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president
#59Re: Turkish university annuls Erdogan rival's degree, preventing run for president
#60In other, recent, non-related news, Columbia University revoked the diplomas of some pro-Palestine protestors[1]. The CBS headline buries the lede, but revoking diplomas is not too low for American universities. 1. https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/columbia-university-pro...
Their diplomas were not revoked for being pro-Palestine, they were revoked for seizing a building, trespassing and vandalism. That's a false equivalence to what is happening in Turkey.
Still crazy that diplomas can be revoked for non-academic problems. Diplomas should only be able to be revoked if it turns out they were gained using academic misconduct (in my opinion).
If I murder someone during my diploma, get the diploma, and then get caught, will the diploma be taken away? How does that make sense?