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Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

m4rtink wrote: post #67
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(installer) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaconda_(Python_distribution) , the installer dates to 1999 and the python distro dates to 2012. So yes, the name is overloaded, but the installer came first, and came first by a lot.

OK, managed to dig up even more Anaconda history, including origins of the name: https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.ht...

Interesting that that says

> So the Anaconda code base that we all started with began in 1999 or so

which implies that the pre-vcs history is pretty short.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by fpoling »

zifpanachr23 wrote: post #45
toprerules wrote: post #24

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Fedora uses more stock and Red Hat is a far, far bigger contributor to Linux and OS as a whole (especially the kernel and systemd). Fedora stays more true to the only OSS ethos. IMO Fedora is the better pick. If I had to use Ubuntu I would fight to use Debian instead.

I agree very strongly with your take. Fedora (and RHEL of course) ooze professionalism in a way that no other distro ecosystem does to me. It's rock solid AND comes with relatively new packages, AND they are close to stock. I also appreciate their willingness to put themselves forward and show leadership when it comes to adopting (or creating) new technologies that can make the platform better. I think most professio…

Fedora often updates kernel and that already broke laptop support (Thinkpad X1 Gen 13 bought a year ago) for me twice requiring to revert to older kernel.

Also few years ago a kernel update made a laptop that was 7 years old non-functional. Eventually I had to install Debian as lack of security updates for the kernel was very problematic.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by extraduder_ire »

mwinatschek wrote: post #65
tapoxi wrote: post #58

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I love my Framework 14. I'm absolutely sticking with this company for all future PCs.

I’d love to try out their products, but as an European it could become a problem in the near future that they’re an US-based company.

Why? They operate via multiple subsidiaries (the EU one is registered in Eindhoven), most notably Singapore and Taiwan, and do their main manufacturing in Taiwan.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by ddxv »

jjice wrote: post #8

I've been feeling a pull towards Fedora lately away from Ubuntu, especially because there's apparently better hardware support for Framework laptops. Does anyone have experience for migrating from Ubuntu to Fedora? Package reinstallation isn't an issue for me, but wondering if anyone has some general tips for migrating everything between distributions, especially with different parent distros.

I migrated and noticed nothing. About all I can think of is I type 'sudo apt xxx' all the time.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by mroche »

threePointFive wrote: post #70

I've been super happy with Fedora since switching to it on desktop. Unfortunately I'm still biased to Debian for the server usecase. Fedora moves too quickly but RHEL (and derivatives) not supporting major version upgrades is pretty much a deal breaker. Would love a RedHat-themed distro with a ~5year support cycle with the option to do major version upgrades.

I'm still hopeful that RHEL will find a way to integrate dnf system-upgrade in the future, but it's not a trivial undertaking. As long as the transaction can resolve cleanly, it's technically possible to do. But it doesn't mean you'll have a properly configured system when it boots up. Tools like leapp and its derivatives (ELevate) do a bit more under the hood work to ensure a complete upgrade. Fedora itself only ever supports and tests up to a two version bump for system upgrades, e.g. 40 -> 42, 41 -> 43, etc. RHEL major releases are jumping (at minimum) six Fedora releases.

https://almalinux.org/elevate/

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by mwinatschek »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #73
mwinatschek wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d love to try out their products, but as an European it could become a problem in the near future that they’re an US-based company.

Why? They operate via multiple subsidiaries (the EU one is registered in Eindhoven), most notably Singapore and Taiwan, and do their main manufacturing in Taiwan.

Many US companies operate via subsidiaries and manufacture their products in Asia. But that doesn’t matter if the main business is based in the US. The current US government, its seemingly random tariffs, and their plans to cut their country off the rest of the world make it hard for me to invest my money and energy into products from the US if I’m not sure if in a year from now I still will get support for them as a customer from Europe.

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by wk_end »

dpool wrote: post #57
virtualwhys wrote: post #55

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Was just in an Apple Store yesterday mulling over whether or not to switch back to macOS after 15 years on Linux PCs. Both MacBook Pros and Airs are nice machines, but macOS, for me, it's a huge step back. Unfortunately the Asahi project is underfunded (likely one of the reasons the project founder/lead jumped ship recently), and as a result M4 support is likely a year+ away. Oh wells, let's see what Dell and Lenovo…

Might be worth taking a look at https://frame.work/ .

I love the idea behind Framework, but my admittedly old one is nowhere near comparable to a MacBook. It's really unpleasant to use, feels cheap, and performance/battery life are shockingly poor on Kubuntu. It's not a patch on a ThinkPad even, much less a Mac. Have they gotten considerably better since I bought mine (end of 2022)?

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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Post by boomskats »

xd1936 wrote: post #53
nasir wrote: post #31

Using Fedora 3 as my first linux distro makes seeing this nostalgic.

Fedora Core 6 here!

FC1 (i think? or like a pre-release beta version?) was the first time I saw that sweet, sweet, slick gnome UX and magical font rendering and mouse acceleration. I remember exactly where I was too - Birks halls at Exeter uni, spring 2003, on my mate Benji's Samsung laptop. It looked so amazing. He was so proud of it. I told him it looked shit and that I was sick of rpm and that he was a noob and that I was more than happy with my slackware makefiles and my KDE / enlightenment setup that I was still too afraid to upgrade to slack 8.

One of the very few things I remember from that year, and yet I remember it in such detail. I'm really not sure how to feel about that.

(but yeah, I've been rocking fedora full time since fc16 or so and haven't looked back, it's amazing)

Re: Fedora 42 Beta

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chuckadams wrote: post #69
burkaman wrote: post #59

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There are no positions where it should matter. Even if there were a genuine reason to care about high school grades (there isn't), asking about relative ranking doesn't make any sense unless you have detailed knowledge of the specific school they went to. It's like asking a candidate to rank their programming ability compared to their current colleagues. What possible information could you derive from this? Example a…

> "Make reference to provincial, state or nation-wide scoring systems, rankings" - do these exist in the US? They name a couple, SAT and ACT are still the main ones. Some states like New York have the Regents Exam which would be a statewide score. Demanding those scores is still just about the dumbest fucking thing I've seen a tech company do.

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