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The Naked and the TED

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Re: The Naked and the TED

#21

...Today TED is an insatiable kingpin of international meme laundering... I liked this article a lot, even though I don't have as much experience with the TED community as the author does. Applying a acerbic wit and cynical eye to what we do as technical people is sorely needed. And the author has a point: at some point the language gets so conceptual and fuzzy that it becomes more of a performance than a knowledge-s…

To me TED feels a bit like going to church, just replacing the Bible with technology in a collective experience.

Re: The Naked and the TED

#22

...Today TED is an insatiable kingpin of international meme laundering... I liked this article a lot, even though I don't have as much experience with the TED community as the author does. Applying a acerbic wit and cynical eye to what we do as technical people is sorely needed. And the author has a point: at some point the language gets so conceptual and fuzzy that it becomes more of a performance than a knowledge-s…

> the idea that as intelligent people many of us are drawn to activities and consumption that makes us look more intelligent

Relevant essay: http://lesswrong.com/lw/2pv/intellectual_hipsters_and_metaco...

Re: The Naked and the TED

#24
>Given TED’s disproportionate influence on a certain level of the global debate, it follows that the public at large also becomes more approving of technological solutions to problems that are not technological but political. Problems of climate change become problems of making production more efficient or finding ways to colonize other planets—not of reaching political agreement on how to limit production or consume in a more sustainable fashion. Problems of health care become problems of inadequate self-monitoring and data-sharing. Problems of ensuring one’s privacy—which might otherwise get solved by pushing for new laws—become problems of inadequate tools for defending one’s anonymity online or selling access to one’s own data.

Likewise, when a publication focused on politics analyzes problems, the solutions are always political, never technological. If you follow the author's logic, most of the issues presented in TED talks could be solved with laws.

I'm quite cynical about the somewhat simplistic solutions offered by some TED speakers, but I don't see laws and political debate solving most of the problems TED discusses.

Re: The Naked and the TED

#25
post #8

Sour sour sour grapes. The thing about TED is, wild-eyed though it may be, it's not a political agenda. It's (trying to be) beyond that, about technology and science and understanding, and while the result is often pretty technocratic it is actually often reflecting the benefits of self-organisation through tech. Stuff like Wikipedia, for example, is perfect TED-fodder because it shows demonstrable ways of doing thin…

Is there some alternate Wikipedia out there that's not a bureaucratic, inefficient, often self-destructive mess? If I drew anything from Wikipedia, I'd draw the conclusion that this sort of 'non-political' technological organization becomes intensely political, with most decisions made through behind-the-scenes rules-related politicking by the people with the most time to burn. Horrifying, because the people with the…

I can't imagine the distopia that'd result if things like zoning laws or environmental regulations were decided by the same process.

You have a brutally dry sense of humor.

Re: The Naked and the TED

#26
I don't have the experience with it to make informed comments, but I can't help feeling increasingly that TED is or has become another version of "the beautiful people".

The money swirling around it doesn't help, in this regard.

Re: The Naked and the TED

#28
post #8

Sour sour sour grapes. The thing about TED is, wild-eyed though it may be, it's not a political agenda. It's (trying to be) beyond that, about technology and science and understanding, and while the result is often pretty technocratic it is actually often reflecting the benefits of self-organisation through tech. Stuff like Wikipedia, for example, is perfect TED-fodder because it shows demonstrable ways of doing thin…

tangential question: what's the difference between "I believe there are no gods" and "I do not believe in gods"? Aren't you, in both cases, saying that the world, as you believe it exists, contains no X where X is a god? I think atheism is still a belief, even if you stick a "not" in front of "believe". (then it just seems like it isn't a belief, as an artifact of English syntax).

Re: The Naked and the TED

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there some alternate Wikipedia out there that's not a bureaucratic, inefficient, often self-destructive mess? If I drew anything from Wikipedia, I'd draw the conclusion that this sort of 'non-political' technological organization becomes intensely political, with most decisions made through behind-the-scenes rules-related politicking by the people with the most time to burn. Horrifying, because the people with the…

I can't imagine the distopia that'd result if things like zoning laws or environmental regulations were decided by the same process. You have a brutally dry sense of humor.

Thank you. I like to post where it's appreciated.

Re: The Naked and the TED

#30
post #8

Sour sour sour grapes. The thing about TED is, wild-eyed though it may be, it's not a political agenda. It's (trying to be) beyond that, about technology and science and understanding, and while the result is often pretty technocratic it is actually often reflecting the benefits of self-organisation through tech. Stuff like Wikipedia, for example, is perfect TED-fodder because it shows demonstrable ways of doing thin…

Is there some alternate Wikipedia out there that's not a bureaucratic, inefficient, often self-destructive mess? If I drew anything from Wikipedia, I'd draw the conclusion that this sort of 'non-political' technological organization becomes intensely political, with most decisions made through behind-the-scenes rules-related politicking by the people with the most time to burn. Horrifying, because the people with the…

Yes, of course Wikipedia is often bureaucratic, inefficient, and self-destructive. I wouldn't recommend putting a lot of time into it. But sometimes it's pretty efficient: some edits are simply accepted.
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