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US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

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Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

This poses an interesting legal question. Since the judge ruled once the plane was in international airspace, would the US have jurisdiction? Or would say mercantile laws or airspace laws apply making it a weird legal hack to deport these "gang members"?

The judge specifically said that he did not have jurisdiction over deportees who had already landed on foreign soil, but could order planes in the air to return.

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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Law doesn’t matter with this administration. SCOTUS decided the president was exempt from the law and the consequences are obvious…

Do you remember when Joe defied the supreme court for student loans?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/2932356/...

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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I loved this "Five Questions About Trump's Alien Enemy Act Proclamation", which runs through a lot of the legal questions at stake (based on existing case law).

(Whether or not this is a legal government is not covered.)

https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/132-five-questions-about-trum...

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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Law doesn’t matter with this administration. SCOTUS decided the president was exempt from the law and the consequences are obvious…

That is NOT what the SCOTUS decision said at all. This is a hysterical comment that’s not cool on HN.

Here’s the ruling which talks about what Presidential actions carry executive immunity and when they do not (Syllabus (2), when authority is shared by Congress). https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

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