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Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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post #3

An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

People are too economically enslaved to mass protest.

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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post #4
post #3

An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

People are too economically enslaved to mass protest.

People do protest…

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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post #3

An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

A Gaddafi-esque exit at the WH or that gaudy resort he loves playing golf at so much.

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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post #3

An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

I don't think protests will matter. Only if republican voters take issue then maybe some congressmen could take a stand. Currently the more reasonable hope is that the judicial branch escalates this to the supreme court.

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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I encourage you to read the government's appeal to the DC Circuit Court. It is terrifying. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69742127/01208720432/jg...

The government is saying that it can declare that transnational crime is an "invasion" under the Alien Enemies Act, and that the courts cannot review this decision. Therefore, they can arrest, deport, or transfer to a prison in a third country, any non-citizen and the courts have no power to intervene or review the decision.

Transnational crime will always exist, and it is present in many countries. So if you're a citizen of Italy and a lawful permanent resident of the US, they can arrest you, accuse you of being in the mafia, and send you to a prison in El Salvador, and you will have no legal recourse. I don't even think they would need that fig leaf since the courts would have no power to review their actions.

Re: US deports Venezuelans despite court order

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post #3

An interesting question is if/when there will be big protests. Ignoring a judge is a breach of constitutional order, and if people don’t speak up for Venezuelan “gang members”, it becomes normalized, and quickly can escalate. I think we’ve all been waiting to see how long it would take to get here (if ever). Now what next???

This poses an interesting legal question. Since the judge ruled once the plane was in international airspace, would the US have jurisdiction? Or would say mercantile laws or airspace laws apply making it a weird legal hack to deport these "gang members"?
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