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Well, I live in Europe and work for an American company and I don't need a visa. In general, the USA is a very nice country to visit but for long-term living I prefer the EU.
Are you saying you're in the US working without a visa?
British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue
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Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue
#252Hot Take: People should be allowed to travel and live wherever they want, if they can work/pay for it and follow local laws.
The local laws include requiring a valid visa.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
More than a decade ago, a UK or Italian colleague travelling into US for a business trip said in an entry interview they are coming in "for work". An IT person, and way before Trump himself even had an idea of becoming a president. They were drilled for hours until finally they let them in: it required producing a lot of paperwork by the company hosting the event on top of the traveller's documentation.
Were they ever in an orange prison jumpsuit?
Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue
#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
It did happen before as well: see above comment I made about my IT colleague being drilled for hours when they said they were coming in "for work" instead of "for a business trip". If you've not passed US border control as a foreigner, you really have no idea of what a pleasant experience it... is not.
My point was not that "being drilled" did not happen. Being locked up in a detention center for days (and in solitary confinement in at least one recent case) for this sort of violation would have been rare to non-existent. I crossed the US border many times as a foreigner, although I am now a citizen. The easiest kind of foreigner though - white, anglo, male, middle class. Even those qualifications don't seem like e…
I get it that US could be nicer, but it was Canada who denied entry first (the girl was coming into Canada after being in the US for weeks prior to that).
I just don't think this has changed due to Trump: I could very well see this happening prior to Trump.
Somebody mentioned how average detainee wait for a court date is 50 days! Trump has not been in power long enough to bring the average that high.
Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue
#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is only one way to enforce the law, which is to enforce it upon learning of all the circumstances, both in favour and not in favour of the accused. The fact that you are not familiar with the law never protects you by design ("oh sorry, I never realised I wasn't allowed to just take their bike and ride away") — so it's upon the courts to make judgement on the entire set of circumstances. The problem with any im…
Your argument that courts will eventually hear a case ignores the reality that immigration proceedings are often slow, and delays can cause irreparable harm to the individual (for instance those facing deportation by the current Trump administration). Second, I disagree with your stance on strict enforcement without discretion, this often lead to unjust outcomes. Laws exist to serve justice, not just to be enforced b…
The fact that courts are slow is a problem unto itself that should be solved independently.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who said anything about taking the hardest line? You could treat everyone amicably until proven otherwise.
I was just expanding on how ICE seems to implement its "one way to enforce the law". They catch and detain people. Sometimes, some of the people with jobs, homes, families —something to lose— get bail after a hearing, but they only account for ~50% of ICE detainees. When you also factor that the average ICE detention is over 50 days, many of the people who attain bail, are only doing so after many weeks in prison. I'…
I am pretty sure the law does not have an option of "be escorted to the nearest international airport/exit at deportee's cost", but in this case, having an option to leave yourself in 48h or face even harsher bans would have likely worked.
Re: British tourist detained by US authorities for 10 days over visa issue
#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
The local laws include requiring a valid visa.
Well I mean the freedom to travel and choose where you live should be a basic human right, and local laws aren't supposed to override basic rights.