https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-025-02110-y/figures/3
The link has images of some of the tools they found. Do you think we could teach a Neanderthal to code?
Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
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Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plunder/Raping raids don't necessarilyead to trading and meaningful conversations do they?
> Plunder/Raping raids What are you referring to? Is there evidence of that being most of the way they interacted?
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA)
Check out killer ape theory.
Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#33so we are all part, Ugg, or is it part Ugg-et, or is it both?, ie: y and x chromasones have nieanderthal bits?, if its both, then that is a strong indication that things were pretty casual, ,hanging out partying, looks like Ugg and Sue are hitting it off, some tasty mastadon on the fire, heard you and the other nieandethals got a saber tooth cat last week
There is no Neanderthal Y chromosome (male line) DNA in modern humans, and also no Neanderthal mitochondrial (female line) DNA in modern humans, but about half of Neanderthal DNA is still around scattered between different modern humans. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-human-y-chromo... , https://theconversation.com/modern-human-dna-contains-bits-f... Neanderthals and mastodons never met, as they were o…
Okay, they didn’t bother to completely sequence neanderthal dna…
And now we make the claim that their Y chromosone is non existent in humans.
Let’s finish the sequencing before being so definitively factual about it.
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Plunder/Raping raids What are you referring to? Is there evidence of that being most of the way they interacted?
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA) Check out killer ape theory. Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
Also Lawrence Keeley, War Before Civilization
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Plunder/Raping raids What are you referring to? Is there evidence of that being most of the way they interacted?
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA) Check out killer ape theory. Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
> Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species.
Also I think that organisms feel most threatened by same-niche competitors, and least threatened by non-competitors. Similar but just different enough is like the worst case in terms of same-niche competition. Like how geese and ducks will act really adversarial towards each other, and then a beaver can just wander through and no one cares.
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#36https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-025-02110-y/figures/3 The link has images of some of the tools they found. Do you think we could teach a Neanderthal to code?
Sure. 95% of software development is banging rocks together until they fit the purpose anyways.
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA) Check out killer ape theory. Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
> Also look at how violent humans are to their own species. Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species. Also I think that organisms feel most threatened by same-niche competitors, and least threatened by non-competitors. Similar but just different enough is like the worst case in terms of same-niche competition. Like how geese and ducks will act really adversarial towards each other, and then…
> Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species.
You could also say that atoms are a construct, also molecules and nuclei. Nature has no concept of any of those. But the clumping is repeatable enough at everyday energies so that it's useful to think about it in those terms.
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA) Check out killer ape theory. Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
> Also look at how violent humans are to their own species. Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species. Also I think that organisms feel most threatened by same-niche competitors, and least threatened by non-competitors. Similar but just different enough is like the worst case in terms of same-niche competition. Like how geese and ducks will act really adversarial towards each other, and then…
>Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species
species are clades, and our genes know everything there is to know about clades
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA) Check out killer ape theory. Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
> Also look at how violent humans are to their own species. Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species. Also I think that organisms feel most threatened by same-niche competitors, and least threatened by non-competitors. Similar but just different enough is like the worst case in terms of same-niche competition. Like how geese and ducks will act really adversarial towards each other, and then…
> Species is a construct though, our genes have no idea about species.
And yes, binning people into races, cultures, and nationalities is often useful too. Especially when they often self-identify as parts of those groups.
Re: Evidence that Neanderthal and Homo sapiens engaged in cultural exchange
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Plunder/Raping raids What are you referring to? Is there evidence of that being most of the way they interacted?
There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA) Check out killer ape theory. Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
So no evidence, just more of the cutting edge, widely followed, paper-thin theory of inevitable evil.
> There are indicators, for example, the neanderthals and all other human like great apes have mysteriously disappeared except for us. (Or gotten assimilated, I mean, we have a tiny bit neanderthal DNA)
That's not an indication at all. It's an outcome.
> Also look at how violent humans are to their own species.
Humanity has grown to 8 billion organisms - the evidence seems otherwise.