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Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be. The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models bei…

The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Anyway, the Cybertruck is a uniquely fun to drive and nimble truck thanks to its four wheel steering and steer by wire. The F-150 Lightning feels like a clumsy relic in comparison. It's just an innovative vehicle with a bunch of e…

>>The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars.

Okay but this is still a poorly considered design element, especially when a company is willing to sacrifice so much else to its peculiar aesthetics. I had no idea what the headlights looked like before this comment, but now I can't unsee them and I'm thankful my truck doesn't share those design "features".

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

#93
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Check how many people have iphones in europe compared to usa

That is because iPhones are better and the US is much richer than Europe on average.

This sentence is a good example of how 2 falsehoods don't make a truth :)

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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By all accounts this vehicle is a failure. I suspect it wasn't actually intended to be the core to Tesla's future though, just an "epic" little novelty treat for Elon and some hardcore fanbois. But I am curious what their future is supposed to look like - were they expecting to grow based on sales of the existing (four?) models or do they have a new model in the pipeline?

They’ve moved past cars. Now cars are passé. It’s all about robot taxis and droids.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

#95

I'm not a car guy, based on the article the trims are glued. My question, is gluing stuffs normal to other car manufacturers for materials like the cantrail trim?

If not screwed, I think most things are snap fit these day.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

Model 3/y are still the best priced electrical vehicles on the market. There are enough poor people that can’t afford the new Mercedes CLA and must drive model 3 instead. I wouldn’t invite Elon for lunch, but I wouldn’t invite German brand managers either.

> There are enough poor people [...]

It looks like some didn't get the humor ;)

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Whenever I see a Cybertruck, I think it must have been a kid who was born too late to buy a DeLorean, he grew up and saw another stainless steel vehicle and said, “I’m in!”

Why not just buy a DeLorean?

A Cybertruck is a like a sketch of a DeLorean made in 3.5 seconds by someone in a hurry to leave the bar.

If you want one, they make new ones: https://delorean.com/

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Thanks for your opinion. Oh forgot, lol. Markets are efficient and if the Europeans and rest of the world are not married to a US company(Apple) that doesn't mean the other product is inferior, the Samsung phone for example.

Now explain why iPhone is more popular in Denmark, Norway, Monaco, Andorra, Iceland, Sweden, Japan, Switzerland than they are even in the US. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/iphone-ma... Efficient markets at work, right?

Because markets aren't efficient. Certainly it's not income related; compare germany and lithuania, or italy and albania.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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It is not just political/cultural reasons. There are lots of other EV cars in Europe now (including both European, Korean and Chinese brands). Tesla has also gotten a bad reputation regarding build-quality and service lately, and Tesla's big sudden price reductions in 2023/2024 meant that the vehicles lost a lot of resale value. But yes; Tesla's primary remaining competitive advantage was its brand -- which Musk has…

Tesla’s build quality was always in doubt but people were willing to overlook this fact. Now only the most ardent fanatics who live in Elon’s reality distortion field, of which I doubt there are many due to his deeply flawed personality, will buy his car. We are witnessing Elon’s house of cards coming down. Remember Elon Musk has massive loans with Tesla as collateral and a collapse of Tesla’s share price will absolu…

Frankly speaking, I read about Musk going bankrupt every month since Tesla's were introduced, than SpaceX was supposed to sank Musk (until it turned out that it and Virgin "disrupted" space industry), than Twitter purchase, now we have Cybertruck.

Not being a fun of Musk as a person (as I am not fun of B. Gates or S. Jobs) I do appreciate that he delivered a breakthrough in at least two industries that were considered staled, unapproachable and closed to existing players (space and automoto). So I will give that Cybertruck a benefit of doubt.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Nazis on one hand, stealerships on the other. What a terrible market.

You can buy a Rivian or Polestar without dealing with dealerships. You could also buy a Hyundai Ioniq 5 or 6 directly on Amazon (even though the implementation still goes through dealerships in the backend) [1]. [1] https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-autos-buy-car...

I knew Rivian did, but I don't consider them since the cars are more than double the cost of Model 3 and Model Y, plus who knows how long that business exists since it still doesn't earn money. Same with Polestar, they are gambles that rich people can afford to make.

I didn't know Hyundai sold online, but that's good news. If only their prices were $20k lower. There is no way I am paying $55k+ for a Hyundai, especially without a $7,500 tax credit compared to a Tesla.

I just checked Tesla inventory, and they have 3 row (5 adults + 2 kids) 2024 Model Y AWD Long Ranges for $39k to $41k (with tax credit) on their website right now.

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