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Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

Model 3/y are still the best priced electrical vehicles on the market. There are enough poor people that can’t afford the new Mercedes CLA and must drive model 3 instead. I wouldn’t invite Elon for lunch, but I wouldn’t invite German brand managers either.

"There are enough poor people that can’t afford the new Mercedes CLA and must drive model 3 instead."

What a sentence.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

No need for brain programming. Some of them will have seen Cody Detwiler WhistlinDiesel test the CT. [1][2] He's of course overly dramatic and meant to be entertainment but I personally wish he would test every vehicle and should be the standard for durability testing. There are plenty of other Youtubers running into problems with the Cyber..... falling apart when doing things I did with my 80's Chevy without issue.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_scBKKHi7WQ [video][10 mins]

[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK_EJ3DyiiA [video][21 mins]

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Besides Tesla's being the best EV's at their price point based on every real-life conversation with Tesla owners, at least they pause deliveries and address issues, unlike many other car manufacturers. Tell me of any other EV truck with anywhere near the same real-life mileage and features, and look at all the EV trucks that are actual failures, like the electric F-150.

R1T is better than a Cybertruck in pretty much every way. It also doesn't look mind-bogglingly stupid to 99% of the world.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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post #40

By all accounts this vehicle is a failure. I suspect it wasn't actually intended to be the core to Tesla's future though, just an "epic" little novelty treat for Elon and some hardcore fanbois. But I am curious what their future is supposed to look like - were they expecting to grow based on sales of the existing (four?) models or do they have a new model in the pipeline?

I followed Tesla and Musk pretty closely for a long time. It really seems like everything about Cybertruck was the Falcon Wing doors lesson all over again, which Musk claimed to have learned. Apparently not.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

#85
post #40

By all accounts this vehicle is a failure. I suspect it wasn't actually intended to be the core to Tesla's future though, just an "epic" little novelty treat for Elon and some hardcore fanbois. But I am curious what their future is supposed to look like - were they expecting to grow based on sales of the existing (four?) models or do they have a new model in the pipeline?

Also curious what is their long-term future as collectibles. This vehicle is emblematic of the question. With cars and especially EVs being proprietary software on wheels, how collectible are they? In another era, the cyber truck would definitely be collectible.

Why would it be any more collectible than, say, a Pontiac Aztek?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I own a cybertruck and completely love it. It’s wacky and fun and it gives me all the tech I wanted, plus I can use it like a truck when needed. I actually think it’s opposite, once people drive it they realize it’s really compelling. It does have some minor build issues that are fixed for free under warranty. Then again so does my gmc.

It's certainly unique in that it gets less towing capacity than an F-350 for double the price.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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post #40

By all accounts this vehicle is a failure. I suspect it wasn't actually intended to be the core to Tesla's future though, just an "epic" little novelty treat for Elon and some hardcore fanbois. But I am curious what their future is supposed to look like - were they expecting to grow based on sales of the existing (four?) models or do they have a new model in the pipeline?

In my opinion, this is the primary problem with Tesla (no new models?) and future directions. Tesla has promised a new Tesla Roadster for 5+ years now. There is no sign of it. Cybertruck also took ~5 years from reveal to release. Not sure where the Tesla semi is. There has been some mention of a low cost EV, but I don't think we've seen sign of that yet. Last I heard was that it was cancelled. So, given that Tesla us…

> So it seems Musk thinks the future for Tesla is in the field of biped robots rather than vehicles.

Really insightful there are still people who believe a word he says. Genuinely.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>German winters are nasty, cold, and damp Worse than Nordics/Scandinavia or neighboring Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, Poland? They don't have winter clothing in Germany? > If your company acts like a typical American one, I can well see a culture clash. Most of German workers work for German companies following German laws and German culture, not American companies. So why twice the sick days versus EU neighbour…

>Most of German workers work for German companies following German laws and German culture, not American companies. So why twice the sick days versus EU neighbours? Which EU neighbours are we talking about? A cursory check shows them to be up by like 20ish% compared to czechia and poland, (which have decent sick pay) but up immensely compared to France and the UK (which do not). If #of sick days scales with % of sick…

>but up immensely compared to France and the UK (which do not)

Do not what?

>do you have a decent dataset on #sick days by any chance?

I mean just google. For example:

https://www.nzz.ch/english/why-europes-appetite-for-work-is-...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is on paper 20x overvalued even against other American car manufacturers like Ford (Tesla P/E ~120, Ford ~6), and I don't see many American cars being highly competitive against Chinese brands whose premium range starts around where American brands put their budget range. Apple, not so clear. Always expensive, but in the sense of only having a premium range and not catering to budget markets, they're priced lik…

Whenever I talked about this with Tesla fans they kept parroting this line about Tesla being "a battery company that also makes cars" or similar. I can understand that this (having some non-car products and a charging network) grants them an advantage of sorts, but they're by far and away the most valuable company by market cap, while having a fraction of the sales of companies like Toyota, GM, Honda etc. It's like t…

People who can't think for themselves will happily parrot anything they've heard to mask their ignorance.
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