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Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. You're either sick or you're not. If you're sick you don't go to work. If you're sick more than 3 days, you get a doctor's note. If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed. Ultimately, you're not penalized for be…

> more than a month or something

6 weeks.

> But your employer can still check that you're actually sick.

Within limits, yes. Tesla in Germany went way beyond that though. Private detectives and managers showing up at employees houses to check they're actually sick.

They're also holding back the salaries of sick employees and are pressuring sick employees to give up their medical privilege and share personal health information with them.

Highly unethical and very likely illegal in some instances.

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There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US. You're either sick or you're not. If you're sick you don't go to work. If you're sick more than 3 days, you get a doctor's note. If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed. Ultimately, you're not penalized for be…

>If you're stick more than a month or something (I forget the exact amount of time) then insurance takes over to help pay your wage so your employer isn't completely hosed

Doesn't employers being forced to paying wages to sick employees for 6 weeks take a toll on small businesses with little cashflow?

>There's no concept of "sick days" here in Germany like there is back in the US.

No, but sick days are still not working days. You still have to report "Krankenstand" to your employer. It's not like whether you work or not because you're sick it's the same thing to your employer and to the law. Sick days are a thing, just not like in the US, but they're still sick days, and not working days.

>I'm sure many people are taking time off of Tesla work due to stress, which is a valid reason to get a doctor's note here.

I'm always curious about this. How often can you get day off for stress? How do employers or health insurers differentiate between stress as a health condition and being lazy and not wanting to work?

Because I remember one time, our offshore team in Germany seemed to all be always mysteriously "getting sick" right before we had a SW release scheduled, leaving us holding the bags. Huh, what a weird coincidence. /s

If you look at recent statistics, German workers are at the top of sick days used, twice as much sick days than the EU average, which is an insane difference. So what's going on? Is there a health crisis in Germany causing Germans to be twice as sick as their neighbors? Or are they twice as likely to cheat the system? Or a bit of both?

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Tesla post 2020 is an interesting experiment in automaking. I'm fairly convinced that if the US wouldn't protect it's internal markets so much, both Apple and Tesla would probably be gone in maximum 10 years. Maybe not gone as much as greatly diminished.

Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bought the company.

Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be.

The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models being reused in a much heavier vehicle, leading to all those photos we've seen of Cybertrucks with snapped off wheels. The headlight "shelf" that collects snow and blocks the headlights. The air suspension system that takes forever to adjust when it's not failing altogether. The glue, oh the glue, so much glue.

It's just so uniquely bad!

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Tesla post 2020 is an interesting experiment in automaking. I'm fairly convinced that if the US wouldn't protect it's internal markets so much, both Apple and Tesla would probably be gone in maximum 10 years. Maybe not gone as much as greatly diminished.

Allegedly, the Cybertruck is the first car Musk was involved in designing. All the previous Tesla models were variants of the designs produced before Musk bought the company.

Simpsons already did it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHGczDHTDpo

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Tesla post 2020 is an interesting experiment in automaking. I'm fairly convinced that if the US wouldn't protect it's internal markets so much, both Apple and Tesla would probably be gone in maximum 10 years. Maybe not gone as much as greatly diminished.

Tesla is on paper 20x overvalued even against other American car manufacturers like Ford (Tesla P/E ~120, Ford ~6), and I don't see many American cars being highly competitive against Chinese brands whose premium range starts around where American brands put their budget range.

Apple, not so clear. Always expensive, but in the sense of only having a premium range and not catering to budget markets, they're priced like premium Android phones. While I see legal and political risks to Apple, I don't see market risks.

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