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Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by api »

oblio wrote: post #2

Tesla post 2020 is an interesting experiment in automaking. I'm fairly convinced that if the US wouldn't protect it's internal markets so much, both Apple and Tesla would probably be gone in maximum 10 years. Maybe not gone as much as greatly diminished.

Apple, I think, would lose market share but would live. It would probably make them better since it would be a nice boot in the ass. But their products are at least good, if a bit overpriced and with more rough spots than some will admit.

Tesla would be dead the instant BYD hit the US shore. Total death. Like chapter 11 and fire sale.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by joakleaf »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

It is not just political/cultural reasons. There are lots of other EV cars in Europe now (including both European, Korean and Chinese brands). Tesla has also gotten a bad reputation regarding build-quality and service lately, and Tesla's big sudden price reductions in 2023/2024 meant that the vehicles lost a lot of resale value.

But yes; Tesla's primary remaining competitive advantage was its brand -- which Musk has done an amazing job at eroding lately.

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by lotsofpulp »

aswanson wrote: post #58
porphyra wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to Santana Row in the Bay Area and the Tesla store was very popular. Most regular people aren't terminally online and constantly worried about politics.

You don't have to be terminally online to see nazi salutes at national political conventions or people protesting and pelting cars & stores nationwide.

Nazis on one hand, stealerships on the other. What a terrible market.

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Post by igetspam »

juujian wrote: post #35
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be. The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models bei…

It's a novelty car for rich people. Now the question is how big is that market.

Shrinking by the minute

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by belter »

belter wrote: post #47
gmac wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons Yes, and those political/cultural reasons are: let's not subsidise people who repeatedly and in public make unambiguous Nazi salutes. TBH it would be nice if those sentiments were spread a bit more widely than Europe.

It would sell great in Hungary...if they could afford it...

"Elon Musk praised Viktor Orbán – and not just any way" - https://mandiner.hu/belfold/2025/02/orban-viktort-meltatta-e...

Re: Tesla Cybertruck deliveries on hold as trims are flying off 'bulletproof' truck

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Post by ciconia »

porphyra wrote: post #44
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Later than it was supposed to be. More expensive than it was supposed to be. Not as much range as it was supposed to have. Not the exoskeleton design it was said to be. Not bulletproof like it was claimed to be. The whole thing is a pile of engineering WTF. The enormous wiper that leaves a huge amount of the windshield untouched, when it manages to work at all. The wheel support structures from other Tesla models bei…

The "headlights shelf" is because the protruding bumper is designed to be lower, to make the vehicle compatible with other cars during a crash, in order to protect the safety of other cars. Anyway, the Cybertruck is a uniquely fun to drive and nimble truck thanks to its four wheel steering and steer by wire. The F-150 Lightning feels like a clumsy relic in comparison. It's just an innovative vehicle with a bunch of e…

It's an antisocial car. It basically screams FU.

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Post by concordDance »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

I'd want reports from randomly sampled Cybertruck users before agreeing to that last clause...

Reports of Tesla cars being awful and full of problems have been around for a decade, but the people I've directly spoken to like their Teslas, though none own a Cybertruck.

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Post by VincentEvans »

lnsru wrote: post #55
stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

Model 3/y are still the best priced electrical vehicles on the market. There are enough poor people that can’t afford the new Mercedes CLA and must drive model 3 instead. I wouldn’t invite Elon for lunch, but I wouldn’t invite German brand managers either.

As an apparently “poor person” owner of model 3 bought used, who it seems “must drive” it - I dislike the whiff of elitism in your post.

What must your world look like that you consider a 30K off-lease car a poor person’s last resort vehicle….

It might surprise you - as having never owned an EV before - I turned to Tesla because I thought of it as buying a trend-setting vehicle from a pioneering car maker that envisioned what next generation transportation might be unanchored to tradition - rather than risking buying a half-baked me-too attempt at a market-share catchup from a legacy brand.

Whether I was ultimately correct in these expectations is a different conversation, but I think one might see how I may have thought that knowing little about EV?

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Post by OtherShrezzing »

porphyra wrote: post #56
aswanson wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is done in the US as well. The brand damage is irreparable at this point with at least 50 percent of the population.

I went to Santana Row in the Bay Area and the Tesla store was very popular. Most regular people aren't terminally online and constantly worried about politics.

While being terminally online might reduce your capacity to understand the thoughts and actions of the everyman, I'm not certain that the Tesla store at Santana Row is a great alternative to get a read on "most regular people".

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Post by vishnugupta »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #41

Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons. Tesla is done in Asia for competitive reasons but I think that Cybertrucks could be the nail in the coffin for even the most MAGA brainwashed Elon fan, once they drive it…

> Tesla is done in Europe for political/cultural reasons

I don’t know anything about Tesla or EVs or Europe. But is there a precedence to this? That a good product went extinct because of political/cultural reasons?

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