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OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by silvaring »

darkwater wrote: post #598
Animats wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's in progress. It's called the MAGA Parallel Economy.[1] Donald Trump, Jr. is in charge. Vivek Ramaswamy and Peter Thiel are involved. Azoria ETF and 1789 Capital are funds designed to fund MAGA-friendly companies. But this may be a sideshow. The main show is US CEOs sucking up to Trump, as happened at the inauguration. That parallels something Putin did in 2020. Putin called in the top two dozen oligarchs, and…

> That parallels something Putin did in 2020. Putin called in the top two dozen oligarchs, and told them "Stay out of politics and your wealth won’t be touched. > Khodorkovsky [...] was arrested in 2003 Something doesn't square here

Its a typo, the article says it happened in the summer of 2000.

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Post by richrichardsson »

darkwater wrote: post #598
Animats wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's in progress. It's called the MAGA Parallel Economy.[1] Donald Trump, Jr. is in charge. Vivek Ramaswamy and Peter Thiel are involved. Azoria ETF and 1789 Capital are funds designed to fund MAGA-friendly companies. But this may be a sideshow. The main show is US CEOs sucking up to Trump, as happened at the inauguration. That parallels something Putin did in 2020. Putin called in the top two dozen oligarchs, and…

> That parallels something Putin did in 2020. Putin called in the top two dozen oligarchs, and told them "Stay out of politics and your wealth won’t be touched. > Khodorkovsky [...] was arrested in 2003 Something doesn't square here

Could just be a muscle-memory typo. Much more likely to be typing 2020 these days than 2002.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by antonkar »

thedevilslawyer wrote: post #622
antonkar wrote: post #613

Basically stole almost whole output of humanity both dead and alive, put it in their Frankenstein Monsters’ ever growing brains and now want to let em roam unsupervised longer and longer (AI agents) and continue to steal things. Taking away human freedoms and giving em to agents 101

What stealing? None of the original content is gone. Perhaps "infringement" is a more apt word.

Yes, if you’ll infringe like they, you’ll be in jail forever

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by thedevilslawyer »

austin-cheney wrote: post #603
glimshe wrote: post #595

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Copyrights are more often used to defend large corporations than small creators. As long everybody has a level playing field and individuals benefit from weaker copyright laws, it might actually make the world a better place. I'm not arguing for the complete elimination of copyright protections, but today's laws, in particular copyright duration, are immoral. This is as good of a starting point as any assuming OpenAI…

> Copyrights are more often used to defend large corporations than small creators. Are there numbers to this or is it empty conjecture? The reality is that resulting civil judgments apply the same regardless of owner size, which benefits small owners disproportionately to large owners with regard to windfall versus regular revenue. That is OpenAI’s principle concern: they don’t want to get sued into bankruptcy by num…

Copyright significantly powers revenue to corporations than individuals. Take music - this article show it's only 12% to individual musicians.

https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/music-artists-make-12-...

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by nness »

deepsummer wrote: post #619

I think an AI should be treated like a human. A human can consume copyright material (possibly after paying for it), but not reproduce it. I don't see any reason why the same can't be true for an AI.

The issue is so much about consumption of copyright material, but acquisition of that material.

Like a real person, AI companies need to adhere to IP and license or purchase the materials that they wish to consume. If AI companies licensed all materials they acquired for training purposes, this would be a non-issue.

OpenAI are looking for a free pass to break copyright law, and through that, also avoid any issues that would arise through reproduction.

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Post by thedevilslawyer »

srg0 wrote: post #623

Copyrighted material includes works by authors from outside the US. By Berne convention, the exceptions which any country may introduce must not "conflict with a normal exploitation of the work" and "unreasonably prejudice the legitimate interests of the author". So if at least one French author does license their work for AI training, then any exception of this kind will harm their legitimate interests and rob them…

> then any exception of this kind will harm their legitimate interests

Pray tell what legitimate interest of the author is harmed by LLM's training on that work? No one is publishing the authors book.

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by thedevilslawyer »

antonkar wrote: post #633
thedevilslawyer wrote: post #622

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What stealing? None of the original content is gone. Perhaps "infringement" is a more apt word.

Yes, if you’ll infringe like they, you’ll be in jail forever

Ignoring the non-sequitur on jail, I guess you're affirming that it's not stealing?
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