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OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by ivanmontillam »

InvidFlower wrote: post #220
ivanmontillam wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Business and tech idea: make it so that it's like Spotify for AI. Everytime an answer is drawn from "certain learned weights," make it so that the source of that knowledge is paid cents per volume.

While that is cool in principal, I'm not sure how well it'd actually work in reality. First, there is the technical challenge. My understanding is the weights can have a lot of fluctuation, especially early on. How do we actually determine how much influence a given piece of content has on the final weights? Then if we get past that, my suspicion is that you could game the training. Like have as much of the process h…

> First, there is the technical challenge. My understanding is the weights can have a lot of fluctuation, especially early on. How do we actually determine how much influence a given piece of content has on the final weights?

Well, Bing AI already knows where it drew the information from and cites sources; so it would be a matter of making the deal.

How to enforce it? that's the main question I reckon.

> Then if we get past that, my suspicion is that you could game the training. Like have as much of the process happen via public domain sources or pay-once licenses.

I agree.

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Post by nomdep »

darkwizard42 wrote: post #457

For those who have used the image generation models and even the text models to create things, there is no way you can look at the Disney-look-alike images and NOT see that as copyright infringement...

IANAL but for copyright infringement you have to distribute it, and AI image generation is like asking someone to paint a cartoon mouse in a wall of your living room

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Post by BenFranklin100 »

Putting legal issues aside for a moment, I argue copyrighted material should be considered fair use simply by virtue of the enormous societal benefits LLMs/AI bring in making the vast expanse of human knowledge accessible.

It’s a major step forward for humanity.

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Post by bediger4000 »

thisisnotauser wrote: post #472
kadoban wrote: post #465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So make the AI models public goods, developed by the government. Why should companies be getting rich on everyone else's work?

Well, I guess most copyright we're talking about here is IP owned by very wealthy corporations, to wit: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/column-intellectual-pro... So I'm not sure that it would really change the status quo for a different group of already rich people to profit off of art created largely by the working poor and owned largely by another group of already rich people. I guess if you think the governm…

> I guess most copyright we're talking about here is IP owned by very wealthy corporations,

They're mostly the entities that can afford to enforce their copyrights. Copyright is for the wealthy, unfortunately.

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Post by Terr_ »

samstave wrote: post #416
Terr_ wrote: post #407

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worry I'm just trying too hard to make it make sense, and this is a TimeCube [0] situation. The most-charitable paraphrase I can come up with it: "Bad people can't use LLMs to hide facts, hiding facts means removing source-materials. Math doesn't matter for politics which are mainly propaganda." However even that just creates contradictions: 1. If math and logic are not important for uncovering wrongdoing, why was…

OMG Thank you - hilarious. TimeCube is a legend... --- I am saying that AI can be used very beneficially to do a calculated dissection of the Truth of our Political structure as a Nation and how it truly impacts an Individual/Unit (person, family) -- and do so where we can get discernible metrics and utilize AIs understanding of the vast matrices of such inputs to provide meaningful outputs. Simple. EDIT @MegaButts;…

> a calculated dissection of the Truth of our Political structure as a Nation

Not LLMs: They might reveal how people are popularly writing about the political structure of the nation.

If that were the same as "truth", we wouldn't need any kind of software analysis in the first place.

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Post by dmix »

Animats wrote: post #476

The demand here for federal preemption of state law has nothing to do with copyright. Copyright is entirely federal level today. It has to do with preventing the use of AI to enable various forms of oppression.[1] Plus the usual child porno stuff. What AI companies are really worried about is a right of appeal from decisions made by a computer. The EU has that. " Individuals should not be subject to a decision that i…

> This moves the cost of LLM errors from the customer to the company offering the service.

So does that mean AI companies are going to have insurance/litigators like doctors and models will be heavily lawyered to add more extensive guardrails. I'm assuming this means not just OpenAI but any service that uses LLM APIs or open models?

For ex: If a finance business pays to use an AI bot that automates interacting with desktop UIs and that bot accidentally deletes an important column in an Excel spreadsheet, then the AI company is liable?

Re: OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules

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Post by Swizec »

Funfact: The reason Hollywood is in California is because Edison’s camera patents didn’t apply there. Altman might actually have a good point – if your competition doesn’t care about your laws, you’re in trouble.

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/51722/thomas-edison-drov...

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