OpenAI asks White House for relief from state AI rules • Hacker News Board

thisisnotauser wrote: post #461

stargrazer wrote: post #459

So, why not pay the price of each copyrighted work ingested by the model?

I mean, China won't have to, so the AI race would still be over.

China also doesn't have to care about the will of its people, human rights, freedom of speech, and a bunch of other pesky things that get in the way of doing whatever the fuck you want to people for personal gain.

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Post by kadoban » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 2:27 AM UTC

thisisnotauser wrote: post #461

stargrazer wrote: post #459

So, why not pay the price of each copyrighted work ingested by the model?

I mean, China won't have to, so the AI race would still be over.

So make the AI models public goods, developed by the government. Why should companies be getting rich on everyone else's work?

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Post by thisisnotauser » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 2:29 AM UTC

noman-land wrote: post #464

thisisnotauser wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, China won't have to, so the AI race would still be over.

China also doesn't have to care about the will of its people, human rights, freedom of speech, and a bunch of other pesky things that get in the way of doing whatever the fuck you want to people for personal gain.

Seems like it'd be bad to let them win then.

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Post by esafak » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 2:30 AM UTC

> National security hinges on unfettered access to AI training data, OpenAI says.

If it's a Republican administration, yell "national security". If it's Democratic, claims it's in the name of child safety.

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Post by aprilthird2021 » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 2:30 AM UTC

Maybe these idiot CEOs shouldn't have screamed from the rooftops about how they can't wait till AI lets them fire all the plebs, then maybe someone would actually care if their company is over or not

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Post by dmix » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 2:31 AM UTC

thisisnotauser wrote: post #461

stargrazer wrote: post #459

So, why not pay the price of each copyrighted work ingested by the model?

I mean, China won't have to, so the AI race would still be over.

I don't think people realize how much money has been dumped into other Chinese AI models besides Deepseek, even American VCs like Sequoia are getting involved

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonshot_AI

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baichuan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniMax_(company)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhipu_AI

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Post by userbinator » Fri, Mar 14, 2025, 2:31 AM UTC

I think there will be a huge change in public perception of copyright in general, as increasingly more people realise that everything is a derivative work.