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Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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Eva "Cash" Kaili. Part two.

You're never going to get rid of bribery and corruption entirely, unfortunately. Greed is way too strong a motivator. Hopefully people actually getting arrested and charged for it makes people think twice though.

Hopefully life in prison is a stronger one.

Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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You can have that opinion but until it's founded in reality it's just that: a baseless opinion. Will there be issues? Of course, whenever money is involved there are issues but as usual: level and degree matter. It's not binary black-and-white.

I bet you need lesson on corruption from EU court then, for exampl. Von der Leyen Commission loses COVID vaccine transparency case ahead of crucial vote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMub-tzrKmk

Your n=1 sample with a case of insufficient transparency provided to the public isn't really enough to make a generalization about corrupt spending.

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>> Authorities suspect that Huawei lobbyists have paid bribes to MEPs in return for backing their cause in the European Union. > Isn’t that the cost of doing business in the EU? No, it's not. If you represent a business there is an official way to express your stance and lobby for your cause but bribing MEPs is a criminal offence (both for the perpetrator and those who receive personal benefits).

Its how all telco hardware companies operate - google "Ericsson/Nortel/Seimens bribe". The only reason the EU has to depend on Huawei is because EU telco hardware which once ran most of China telco can't compete anymore. So they have to play this game until local players get their act together.

... I mean, if this were the case, Huawei would have a monopoly, and no reason to bribe anybody. Like, put a _bit_ of thought into this stuff; your claim cannot possibly be correct.

For what it's worth, the UK, having banned Huawei stuff, is currently ripping out their Huawei 5G gear and replacing it with largely equipment from Ericsson.

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I'm more comfortable with Chinese than US masters.

Are you sure? Publically criticize the American government, then do the same with the Chinese government. Now, did your opinion change? Although I agree that with latest guys it won't be long before they also get a thought police.

I would rather someone sitting in China wants to persecute me than someone in my own country / town / neighbourhood / home - who can actually persecute me.

Likewise if I lived in China, and I had to pick between being spied on by my state or someone half way around the world - I would welcome the CIA to listen in all day long.

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post #33

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Its how all telco hardware companies operate - google "Ericsson/Nortel/Seimens bribe". The only reason the EU has to depend on Huawei is because EU telco hardware which once ran most of China telco can't compete anymore. So they have to play this game until local players get their act together.

... I mean, if this were the case, Huawei would have a monopoly, and no reason to bribe anybody. Like, put a _bit_ of thought into this stuff; your claim cannot possibly be correct. For what it's worth, the UK, having banned Huawei stuff, is currently ripping out their Huawei 5G gear and replacing it with largely equipment from Ericsson.

Huawei did have a monopoly.

They were bribing officials to try to get them to not ban them in the great Huawei wars of the late 2010's / early 2020's - which led to the UK banning Huawei at the behest of the US for political reasons.

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I'm more comfortable with Chinese than US masters.

Are you sure? Publically criticize the American government, then do the same with the Chinese government. Now, did your opinion change? Although I agree that with latest guys it won't be long before they also get a thought police.

> Are you sure? Publically criticize the American government, then do the same with the Chinese government. Now, did your opinion change?

Personally I'm less bothered by China. I need to do business in the US, I don't need to do business in China. The US government has a lot of leverage to fuck up my life, I would not care about the reach of the Chinese.

Re: Huawei targeted in new European Parliament corruption probe

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I'm more comfortable with Chinese than US masters.

Are you sure? Publically criticize the American government, then do the same with the Chinese government. Now, did your opinion change? Although I agree that with latest guys it won't be long before they also get a thought police.

China doesn't give a damn if I criticize them from the EU. Even our politicians are free to criticize them, in contrast to US leaders/oligarchs especially nowadays.
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