Gemini Robotics • Hacker News Board

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by CamperBob2 » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:10 PM UTC

renecito wrote: post #272

fusslo wrote: post #239

I'm a firmware engineer that's been working in consumer electronics and I feel very bleak about my future I feel so left behind. I have extremely limited robotics and computer vision experience. I have no ML experience. The only math I know has to do with basic signal processing. When I see open roles at these companies I think the projects I'm going to work on in the future will be more and more irrelevant to societ…

Get concerned when you see a real product in the market that has a sustainable business model. The man behind the curtain here has an army of engineers, unlimited cloud nodes and basically has harvested all the data currently available in the world. It doesn't get any better than this right now. What's next? They'll ping you later on Linked-in with this awesome idea that you need to make sure runs in a $1 USD microco…

It doesn't get any better than this right now.

And it won't ever get any worse.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by midhun1234 » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:10 PM UTC

Any word on what the interface to the actual robots look like. Would this support generalized interfaces or tools ? Like MCP for physical hardware.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by CamperBob2 » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:11 PM UTC

dinkumthinkum wrote: post #321

kenjackson wrote: post #295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You see this with high level languages now. Memory management much less assembly are things of a bygone era.

“Memory management”, “bygone era.” The problem is you and many others probably think this is actually true.

It is true. Deal with it and get over it.

In 10 years, no trace of our current practices will remain in a recognizable form. It'll take longer than most of us think -- imagine how nonplussed Winograd and the rest of the SHRDLU-era AI gurus would have been to see how long it took to pull off the dice-matching trick in the video -- but when it does happen, it'll happen faster than we think. We're not yet at the tipping point, but it's close.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by ethan_smith » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:16 PM UTC

muzani wrote: post #338

jwblackwell wrote: post #296

The upshot of this is that anyone will be able to order a couple of robot arms from China and then set them up in a garage, programming them with just text, like we do with LLMs now. Time to think bigger.

"Time to think bigger." I want to strap robot arms to paralyzed people so they could walk around, pick up stuff, and climb buildings with them.

Climb buildings? ಠ_ಠ

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by __MatrixMan__ » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:22 PM UTC

Etheryte wrote: post #113

hard_times wrote: post #59

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Problem is that any sort of non-trivial robotics is easily weaponisable

I don't think this argument really matters. Consumer drones are being used in active warfare today, as we speak, with minimal modifications. The cat is out of the bag no matter which way you look at it. You could just as well say that many chemicals at the construction store are easily weaponizable, they make for an explosive and there's plenty of guides online on how to do so.

Even with access to explosives, you still need a bit of gusto to carry out the rest of the crime. I think it's a bit different when you can ask the weapon to find and eliminate its target without you ever having to leave your garage.

Not being a high profile target myself, I'd rather take that risk and see where it goes. Unfortunately it's the high profile targets themselves that make the decisions, so after the first few incidents I figure there will be this whole mess where they try to clamp down on access to such things without sufficient forethought.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by muzani » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:23 PM UTC

ethan_smith wrote: post #344

muzani wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Time to think bigger." I want to strap robot arms to paralyzed people so they could walk around, pick up stuff, and climb buildings with them.

Climb buildings? ಠ_ಠ

Yes, sadly, not many places are wheelchair friendly.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by mkoubaa » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:28 PM UTC

The Asimov inspired constitution is troubling. He didn't really understand anything about how robots actually work.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by Powdering7082 » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:29 PM UTC

gatinsama wrote: post #100

The problem with Google is that their ad business brings so much revenue that no other product makes sense. They will use whatever they learn with robots to raise their ad revenue, somehow.

Waymo seems to be a counter example here

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by opwieurposiu » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:30 PM UTC

ethan_smith wrote: post #344

muzani wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Time to think bigger." I want to strap robot arms to paralyzed people so they could walk around, pick up stuff, and climb buildings with them.

Climb buildings? ಠ_ಠ

Hopefully they invent some kind of sticky gripper instead of just smashing all the windows like Doctor Octopus.

Re: Gemini Robotics

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Post by lallysingh » Wed, Mar 12, 2025, 10:36 PM UTC

stefan_ wrote: post #336

cjmcqueen wrote: post #276

If this makes it easier and faster to sort garbage, we could probably improve the efficiency of recycling 100x. I know there are some places that do that already, but there are so many menial tasks that could be done by robots to improve the world.

If you can recognize what garbage to yeet, you can already yeet it today. You don't need a terribly slow robot arm to do it.

Who's "you" here? The person at home, an employee at a recycling center, or garbage dump?