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Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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Post by gaganyaan »

rayiner wrote: post #88
otterley wrote: post #82

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People troll on message boards because they are anonymous and there are no consequences. Trolling in real life, on the other hand, has consequences: try doing it at work, or with your partner (if you have one), and see how that works out for you. The long-term consequences of his behavior have yet to reveal themselves. We will see. The only reason Musk can troll and get away with it is because he is fabulously wealth…

You're so close! But you've got the conclusion backwards. People enjoy Musk's trolling because the culture has become so sanitized. There is a reason corporate HR departments have rigid rules--legal liability, the need to keep a diverse workforce focused on the job at hand. But the whole world shouldn't be like that. > It’s the “things they wish they could say” that’s concerning. The ideological alignment speaks for…

What a stupid take. Sorry to be blunt, but you need to be told that, because you should feel bad.

There's a reason for the quote "Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company".

Replace "idiots" with "Nazis" for enlightenment.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

#102

Post by littlestymaar »

scarab92 wrote: post #59
littlestymaar wrote: post #41

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Amazon isn't a great example though as Jeff “algorithmically controlling workers body” Bezos is only marginally less evil than Musk.

Tall poppy syndrome. The entirely logistics industry tracks worker productivity closely. Amazon are actually one of the better companies to work for. Their targets are more realistic, the pay is generally better, safety culture is much better and the facilities are air conditioned.

It's not just about tracking productivity, it's about the words he chose to say that.

Bezos also bought the WaPo and exert tight control over its editorial line so it can act as its own propaganda machine.

While not as ostensibly evil as Musk (likely because unlike the former, he's not high on drugs all the time), Bezos is still pretty close to a Bond villain.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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Post by [deleted] »

gaganyaan wrote: post #101
rayiner wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're so close! But you've got the conclusion backwards. People enjoy Musk's trolling because the culture has become so sanitized. There is a reason corporate HR departments have rigid rules--legal liability, the need to keep a diverse workforce focused on the job at hand. But the whole world shouldn't be like that. > It’s the “things they wish they could say” that’s concerning. The ideological alignment speaks for…

What a stupid take. Sorry to be blunt, but you need to be told that, because you should feel bad. There's a reason for the quote "Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company". Replace "idiots" with "Nazis" for enlightenment.

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Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

#105

Post by otterley »

rayiner wrote: post #88
otterley wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People troll on message boards because they are anonymous and there are no consequences. Trolling in real life, on the other hand, has consequences: try doing it at work, or with your partner (if you have one), and see how that works out for you. The long-term consequences of his behavior have yet to reveal themselves. We will see. The only reason Musk can troll and get away with it is because he is fabulously wealth…

You're so close! But you've got the conclusion backwards. People enjoy Musk's trolling because the culture has become so sanitized. There is a reason corporate HR departments have rigid rules--legal liability, the need to keep a diverse workforce focused on the job at hand. But the whole world shouldn't be like that. > It’s the “things they wish they could say” that’s concerning. The ideological alignment speaks for…

We’re well past the mere “trolling for lulz’s sake” phase. These people now have the controls and their actions can do significant damage if unchecked.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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Post by seabird »

potato3732842 wrote: post #37
seabird wrote: post #35

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It's an overbuilt stainless body and underbuilt aluminum frame that is not capable of what a $5000 beater truck is. It's a bad truck.

It's built to modern standards of power and braking and weighs over 6k. It's gonna run circles around whatever 25yo half ton you can get or $5k as long as the owner actually uses it to its potential. Though the whole back breaking off thing gives me pause.

In the same comment, you acknowledge why it can't run circles around the 25 year old half ton. The fucking hitch can break off while towing in a way that wouldn't happen on any other production truck. It is a bad truck.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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Post by [deleted] »

csa wrote: post #50
courseofaction wrote: post #21

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Serious question: do you expect to have to field questions about buying a car from Musk post-seig heil and DOGE?

> Serious question: do you expect to have to field questions about buying a car from Musk post-seig heil and DOGE? I live in a liberal part of California. No one has said anything to me about driving a Tesla, and I doubt anyone will. I know a few folks who have ruled out a tesla because of Elon, but the realize that a car and the ecology around it is more than its CEO (or whatever he is). I know many more folks who h…

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Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

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Post by chneu »

rbanffy wrote: post #68
chneu wrote: post #56

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Believe it or not, tons of people don't care about that. It's something that I have to constantly remind myself of. They either agree with it, don't care, or it isn't important enough. It's good when people openly admit to it because then an actual conversation can take place. When people make up dumb reasons or just won't say the truth it leads to pointless discussion.

I find it shocking people wouldn’t care about someone in power throwing around Nazi salutes and making very Nazi-like comments.

One thing I've discovered is that capitalism has really beat many americans into submission. Add in the "American Individuality/Freedom" thinking and it's pretty toxic.

People have a million excuses for why they just can't be bothered to care about anything. We reinforce this mentality with the whole "you're doing your best, it's okay" mentality that many people have nowadays. "You're getting by in a hard time" type mentality.

People are "too tired" to give much of a crap about anything.

Now, whether they're actually all that tired or it's just a very convenient excuse I dont know, but that's the gist that I get from a large number of people. They don't want to care, capitalism offers them easy excuses to not care, so they don't care. Until it directly affects people's livelihood they just won't give much of a crap.

There are also many people who supply excuses too, such as "This is the way people are, don't try to change it" type stuff. We have a ton of excuses nowadays and it's really easy to take them.

Finally, a lot of younger people are simply burnt out on this stuff. People under the age of 30 don't see much of a future. It's not that they don't care that Elon and Co are parroting nazis, it's that there doesn't seem to be a point in caring when the environment is fucked.

Idk how much of this is true but I travel a lot and talk to a lot of people. This is the vibe I get when people finally open up and are honest with me about these things.

Re: Tesla offering insane perks as sales dry up

#109

Post by chneu »

ein0p wrote: post #89
chneu wrote: post #58

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How much Rush do you listen to? The guy who welded my exhaust and tasted my transmission fluid to tell me how "synthetic tastes terrible" says the things you do. All that dude listens to is fear mongering conservative media that constantly misrepresents reality to make people feel scared. Everytime I walk into that shop I hear scared white dudes talking about things that aren't actually happening to justify their wei…

How much MSNBC do you listen to? https://www.usdebtclock.org

I dont listen/watch msnbc. Most people would describe me as center-right in US politics.

I live in the rural/urban divide and grew up extremely conservative on a ranch. I know a ton of people like you, including a lot of my family. Your stances are based on willful ignorance and a very basic misunderstanding of the topics being discussed. Folks who talk like you are basically one "enlightenment" away from sovereign citizen status.

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