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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by jjmarr »

photonthug wrote: post #536
glenstein wrote: post #461

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Maintaining a fully compliant, secure, cross-platform web browser that competes with the biggest companies on earth absolutely is going to have costs like that. I think Mozilla Foundation receives something like 5 to 10%. I'm not against the argument that foundations can be bloated and inefficient, but at this point, this anti Mozilla narrative is completely out of control and almost purely speculation driven.

More charitably, it's driven by frustration more than speculation. Browsers are old technology, and some people think that maybe hurling huge amounts of money at stuff like this is unreasonable because projects can/should be "finished" at some point. Forever-development is very often actively harmful, and if it's actually necessary then it might be hiding problems in the wider ecosystem. It's good that we have altern…

> Also can we just take a minute to seriously try to imagine the leader of the "Makefile foundation" receiving $2.4M in compensation, and generally burning a lot more money on dead-end "innovations" and then rebranding as "OpenSource.. And Advertising". Make is 20 years older than Mozilla, but does it look like the browser project will be finished or moving in a great direction any time soon while there's big opportunities for grift and graft?

Make is pretty slow which is why `ninja`, funnily enough, was invented to speed up Google Chrome build times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_(build_system)

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by throw7 »

The only chrome browser I'm using is on a cheap chromebook I bought.

It looks like I could turn on the linux vm and run firefox, but it "only" has a 16GB ssd of which like 12GB is "system space" (ridiculous) and I only have 1GB left which isn't enough to enable the linux dev environment.

I could look into seeing if I can get native linux on the hardware, but it's probably not worth the time and trouble for it.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by croes »

dhrm1k wrote: post #306
caminante wrote: post #211

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Not really. 90% of users won't notice a difference. Here's the feature diff. [0] [0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...

i mean what's the breaking point? why is ublock no longer in the store whole the lite is?

ublock is manifest v2, lite is v3.

Manifest v3 removed access to certain APIs that where used to alter the websites to block ads

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by jnathsf »

basisword wrote: post #392
gruez wrote: post #295

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This conspiracy theory doesn't make sense because safari's content blockers (ie. the nerfed version of adblock) block most ads just fine, especially from google ads. The only ads that get through are first party ads (eg. youtube), but as of a few years ago adblockers could block those as well, so it's a moot point.

Safari content blockers are awful compared to UBlock and I’m a Safari user. Not only does YouTube either get through or cause weird issues, YouTube now blocks you until you completely disable the extension. Content blockers often block cookie banners too which can often result in broken functionality - a nightmare when you’re trying to buy tickets to something and have to “reload without blockers” for the website to…

Suggest using a service like NextDNS or Pi-hole for DYI ad blocking at the DNS/network level. I started with pi-hole but the hassle of updates and most importantly not having it available outside of my home network pushed me to a service like NextDNS which works on any network (5G, work, etc)

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by hn_acc1 »

sneak wrote: post #216
marricks wrote: post #196

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Why be bitter at the people dealing with the shit, why not be angry at the people making the world shit? My company uses gmail so I'm forced to use it.

Everyone dealing with gmail is doing so because they chose to. Let’s not pretend this was done unto them. Anyone can stop using gmail at any time.

Not me - it's work mandated.

Not my wife - her school board mandates it.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by iforgotpassword »

kypro wrote: post #413
phito wrote: post #51

I hear so many people IRL complaining about this. I tell them to switch to firefox, that the adblockers still work there, and they still won't switch to it because they are "used to chrome". I really feel like google won this battle. People will through a lot of abuse just to maintain their habits.

People say similar things about Google Search, and a few times I've tried not use Google Search but every time I've tried it's become clear that the reason I use Google Search isn't just habit, but that it's the best search engine for most queries I perform. I've had a very different experience with browsers though... I switch browsers pretty often and with ease. I genuinely can't get my head around why someone would…

Well, today mostly yes. But at the same time, I've been an Opera user (if not fanboy) for a good decade, until they ditched their own engine and basically started from scratch with chrome as a base. It lost 99% of its features overnight.

I really struggled to switch to anything else. Firefox was definitely the most customizable, but finding extensions to replicate every feature of Opera, and properly at that, was a never-ending nightmare.

Only at that point did I realize how vital a browser has become for everyday tasks, and as a power user, how much you get accustomed to it. Maybe not if you're just running stock Chrome or Firefox with two extensions, but Opera was so feature-rich that I didn't ever install a single extension but needed about a dozen on Firefox to try and mimic it. In the end I just stayed on Opera 12 until it wasn't even funny anymore. It must've been about two years. Eventually so many sites broke that I just switched to Firefox and only installed uBO and greasemonkey. It hurt but over time I just gradually forgot what using opera was like. Sometimes I think back and really miss it. Some of it is just nostalgia by now, but the struggle switching was real.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by phendrenad2 »

nine_zeros wrote: post #498

Use Brave browser - both on phones and laptops. The ad-free experience will change your perspective on what internet looks like. You won't miss Google.

It's amazing that every post about Brave gets downvoted. I wish the downvoters would explain why they're doing this, but I guess they aren't very... brave.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by gruez »

fmajid wrote: post #512
gruez wrote: post #419

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>Apple is totally an advertising company. Have you missed the part about [...] Have you missed the part of my comment of my comment where I specifically mentioned "web advertising presence"? That's relevant, because ublock would only work on web ads. It can't block ads in the app store, or any other app (eg. spotify).

Apple also serves ads and trackers on the web, not just in-app or on the App Store. Here are the relevant built-in uBlock Origin filter rules: https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AuBlockOrigin%2FuAssets+ap... Thus they also clearly have an incentive to sabotage uBO. It may be a much smaller piece of their revenue than at Google, but it is a huge proportion of their revenue growth. Don't believe Apple's marketing about…

>Here are the relevant built-in uBlock Origin filter rules:

Can you link to a specific rule that shows Apple has web ads? The search results you linked either removeparam filters (which I guess is "tracking", but probably the most benign kind), malware sites that contain "apple.com", or analytics domains that seemingly belong to apple. Moreover there's no evidence that Safari's content blocker restrictions make a difference here. The domains are trivially blocked so it's unclear how apple is materially gaining from their nerfed adblock.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by spankalee »

rurp wrote: post #516
spankalee wrote: post #476

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There was a time in Chrome when it didn't support extensions at all. If Google had release an extension API like manifest v3 then, would that have been abuse of market position? The reason why Chrome waited for so long to add extensions was the danger they posed to users. I was at Google when Sergey often worried about what extensions would do to non technical and older users who get tricked into installing them, the…

If it's really that big of a problem this can be addressed by locking extensions by default and hiding the on switch where casual users won't look. But come on, this is obviously a pretext. You expect people to believe that the most prolific adertising and surveilance company in history is crippling the ability to block ads and trackers for altruistic reasons?!

It's not "obviously" a pretext. I don't think that the change in ad revenue to Google is going to be significant between v2 and v3 ad blockers. It might be to ad networks and sites that employ significant ad blocker counter measures though.

And it's not "altruistic" - it's because eval() and webRequestBlocking are bad for security and performance, so they're bad for a lot of users. Users who will switch to Safari or another browser without that extension API, because the browser is faster or didn't exfiltrate their banking credentials.

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