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uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by jemmyw »

fabrice_d wrote: post #415
ray023 wrote: post #366

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Brave has its own Rust based Adblocker BUILD IN. That is at the very core of the Browser, uses the exact same filter lists uBlock Origin and all the other use. There is no point in using uBlock origin in Brave at all. I have been using Brave for years now and the adblocker pretty much like uBlock. Never looked back. I think it even inspired by uBlock but the fact they can even integrate it tighter with Chromium makes…

uBlock Origin does a bit more than applying community maintained filter lists though. I regularly use its capability to add custom filters for instance. Is that also possible in Brave?

Yes

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by derkster »

gruez wrote: post #439
F7F7F7 wrote: post #407

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Whataboutism is so lazy.

It's not whataboutism. If the claim is that google's actions with manifest v3 is "abusing its market position to their own benefit", but Apple did the same thing when it didn't stand to benefit from it, then it severely undermines that claim. Sure, it doesn't rule out google was secretly intending on doing it, only internal memos or whatever can prove that definitively. But at the same time, to immediately conclude t…

You talk about Google as if it's a person. You should take a step back and think to yourself why the changes were made to Manifest V3 that broke backwards compatibility, weakening ability to ad-blocking. Rule set based modification is one of the first features I'd think of when developing a systems of extensibility in browser, and they removed it.

The reasoning is obvious, and "plausible deniability" is not enough to give Google charity. The more difficult you make it to block ads, the more impressions, and the more money made. Yet you believe people should be "charitable" to the same company that can't hire the manpower to defend their own users against bad faith DCMA takedown notices. Because they ran the analysis, and it wasn't worth the cost.

Best case scenario, Chromium loses market share, implements the parts removed from V2, Google likely kicks the can down the road to Manifest V4.

There's no reason to believe companies deserve charitability. Companies are systems designed to extract maximum value, and when the world around that system changes, the system adjusts itself. It's not the systems fault for trying to get more value, it's our fault for letting them.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by jemmyw »

johnisgood wrote: post #396
tmtvl wrote: post #390

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But does it support blocking JavaScript, large media elements, social widgets, and fonts?

I would like to know this, too. It does not seem to be on the list of features unless they are referring to it via "cosmetic filtering". I often block particular elements on websites.

You can block elements, there's an option on the right click context menu to do it visually.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by pnw »

tmtvl wrote: post #390
homebrewer wrote: post #346

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> install uBlock Origin in Brave There's no need to do it, their built-in adblocker supports the same rule lists. https://github.com/brave/adblock-rust

But does it support blocking JavaScript, large media elements, social widgets, and fonts?

Yes, you can block elements directly from the context menu. I use it all the time on Reddit.

There's also built in blocking under brave://settings/shields for Javascript and social features.

It doesn't have a specific feature to block fonts AFAIK but it does have fingerprint protection if that's your concern.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by photonthug »

glenstein wrote: post #461
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #381

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If it costs $200 million a year to develop Firefox, then their management team is guilty of gross incompetence. I am betting this is really paying for the crappy side projects and HUGE pay for the Mozilla Foundation people (just like all the BS spending the Wikimedia foundation does) and has nothing to do with Firefox itself.

Maintaining a fully compliant, secure, cross-platform web browser that competes with the biggest companies on earth absolutely is going to have costs like that. I think Mozilla Foundation receives something like 5 to 10%. I'm not against the argument that foundations can be bloated and inefficient, but at this point, this anti Mozilla narrative is completely out of control and almost purely speculation driven.

More charitably, it's driven by frustration more than speculation. Browsers are old technology, and some people think that maybe hurling huge amounts of money at stuff like this is unreasonable because projects can/should be "finished" at some point. Forever-development is very often actively harmful, and if it's actually necessary then it might be hiding problems in the wider ecosystem.

It's good that we have alternatives to chrome, but on the other hand the alternatives are not winning, and they prevent any chance of regulation (or having a reasonable discussion about whether chrome sucks, as we see here). There's a strong argument that mozilla IS google's antitrust shield.

Also can we just take a minute to seriously try to imagine the leader of the "Makefile foundation" receiving $2.4M in compensation, and generally burning a lot more money on dead-end "innovations" and then rebranding as "OpenSource.. And Advertising". Make is 20 years older than Mozilla, but does it look like the browser project will be finished or moving in a great direction any time soon while there's big opportunities for grift and graft?

Signed, a grateful but nevertheless annoyed and skeptical firefox user

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by jesuslop »

drdec wrote: post #35
freedomben wrote: post #16

I hope Mozilla realizes (and still cares) that they have a huge opportunity here to be the power-browser where you can get awesome extensions, unlike the locked-down and hobbled Chromium ecosystem. I suspect they do realize this because they've been really leaning into extensions recently, but over the years I've worried that Mozilla's committment to Firefox isn't as serious as I would like. Regardless, I'd love to s…

My problem with extensions is it's another development team to trust and monitor. I need to know if the extension has been sold, taken over by a new lead, etc.

Yep while this manifest v3 ugly thing is putting me on the brink of jumping ship (I compromise by having two browsers), as for your concern I found that Chrome is going to allow blacklisting extensions for sites, so now I can turn them off for the few sites that I really worry to grant extension read access.

chrome://flags, "Extensions Menu Access Control" flag. https://developer.chrome.com/blog/new-extensions-menu-testin...

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by kennysoona »

porker wrote: post #292
inertiatic wrote: post #57

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I use Firefox as my main browser and it's not a viable alternative to Chrome if you have the very common usage pattern of keeping tens of tabs open.

751 tabs open right now and growing. Firefox copes fine. Me? Not so much (:

751 tabs open is just ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.

Use some kind of tab session manager addon, and start organizing things - no need to have them all open concurrently.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by kennysoona »

Spivak wrote: post #102
dewey wrote: post #88

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I use Firefox as my main browser and having "tens of tabs open" is something I do and there's zero issues with that.

I regularly have 200+ tabs open in FF, no idea what the parent is talking about. Right now I'm at 181 and it's still buttery smooth.

Goodness just install a tab session manager.

Re: uBlock Origin is no longer available on the Chrome Store

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Post by kennysoona »

ngomez wrote: post #345
caminante wrote: post #211

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Not really. 90% of users won't notice a difference. Here's the feature diff. [0] [0] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...

I've been trying uBO Lite myself for a few months, and anyone who uses YouTube will absolutely notice that it's worse at blocking. Lite tends to delay playback at the start of a video for as long as the blocked ads would've been, making the site feel slower, and once in a while an ad will slip past the blocker anyway.

Just use Freetube to browse Youtube. It's a better experience in every respect.
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