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Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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I’d argue most of the cost of scare housing is supply limits imposed by ridiculous over regulation of new construction. It’s not like we forgot how to build houses and apartments we just aren’t allowed to.

Even if you could build as you please, the labour costs still make up the large marjory of the cost of the home. There isn't a whole lot of room for the costs to come down. That is unless you destroy the price of labour... Which undoing the global economy will help with.

When I bought my land the #1 driver of cost was either covenants (basically irreversible burden written by now dead boomers in the 80s who were furious someone would build anything but a mansion next to their mobile home pig farm) or zoning. I knew I needed to build as small as possible to keep prices down, so I had to find a needle in a haystack of someplace without onerous covenants or zoning but with some way to establish or create utilities. Everyone was wanting 1000+ sq ft houses on their vacant desert shithole land.

Just water and electric can be a nightmare. I lucked out buying an unproven already drilled old well that was grandfathered in, but if not you have to deal with hoping you'll be allowed to drill or access water and costly regulation for that. Same story with electric. I finally got it, after paying the coop to run new poles down the road, but only after a long fight with another company that kept asking for endless paperwork and expensive surveys that they later admitted weren't even needed. And then there is septic. I found a guy who used to be the county inspector to navigate that for me, but without connections you can get yanked around into all sorts of expensive hurdles or overengineering.

And this is all before you even break ground.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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European here. To be frank, it’s more about the rest of the ”west” updating our list of friendly countries. It is the US that has chosen to take an ever more adversarial position lately, pretty much worsening daily. The trust among the rest of the west feels like it instead is strengthening. I interpret both ”buy European” and ”buy Canadian” as more of ”don’t buy from USA” with a thin layer of politeness.

There is no such veneer of politeness in Canada. The sentiment is more 'boycott USA'.

Understood. From my reading of /r/canada I’ve got the impression that you are further along that path. I’ve been quite impressed with the political response to the whole 51st/governor madness as well.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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The problem was that the people that benefitted most from free trade never do the work to ensure that a fair share of the profits went to the working class who were now being displaced. If you can no longer get lifelong middleclass job with a high school diploma, but you need a degree, then the degree should be paid for by the state... or you see what you see, a race to the bottom and then a backlash.

There are plenty of worker owned businesses. If this leads to more worker prosperity then the free market should push workers into them and to form them. They are free to do so, so what gives?

"It's called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes this can be done imperceptibly over time."

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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There is no such veneer of politeness in Canada. The sentiment is more 'boycott USA'.

Understood. From my reading of /r/canada I’ve got the impression that you are further along that path. I’ve been quite impressed with the political response to the whole 51st/governor madness as well.

Canada is the canary in the coal mine. Watch it closely if you want to see what's coming for Europe.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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It’s genuinely sad to see the world splintering into waves of nationalistic protectionism. Not long ago, we had something promising, a slow but steady crawl toward a united global community. Progress was gradual, sure, but it was real. Countries could specialize and trade freely: I’d buy your chips, you’d buy my steel, and we’d both come out ahead. It worked. Now, though, it’s all about "national sovereignty" and "in…

Nah protectionism is really important. Globalization introduces dependencies and therefor allows countries to easily exploit others. Globalization is not as good as you describe it.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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I'm always sad that very successful European companies got fully incorporated in the US: datadog, algolia, dataiku, dashlane, etc. Also it seems to be missing some techs company: pigment, aircall, contentsquare (but not sure if it's a mistake)

Unfortunately that’s the case because large US-based companies can leverage their existing global sales / marketing / governance setup to rationalize very high exit valuations. In the EU we don’t have the large software shops that can do that. So for an EU based startup - it’s exit to a US-based company or go all the way to an IPO / profitability.

Your comment illustrated the problem: Europeans are very content with making excuses for their failures so they can continue not making an effort.

Those Europeans who are not at home with that culture move to America. It's been like this for hundreds of years.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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It’s genuinely sad to see the world splintering into waves of nationalistic protectionism. Not long ago, we had something promising, a slow but steady crawl toward a united global community. Progress was gradual, sure, but it was real. Countries could specialize and trade freely: I’d buy your chips, you’d buy my steel, and we’d both come out ahead. It worked. Now, though, it’s all about "national sovereignty" and "in…

The problem was that the people that benefitted most from free trade never do the work to ensure that a fair share of the profits went to the working class who were now being displaced. If you can no longer get lifelong middleclass job with a high school diploma, but you need a degree, then the degree should be paid for by the state... or you see what you see, a race to the bottom and then a backlash.

The greatest number of people benefiting from free trade in this instance have been Chinese. Within America, the beneficiaries seem to have been farmers - China is a major US export market as well as an import market, people keep forgetting these things have two sides.

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There are plenty of worker owned businesses. If this leads to more worker prosperity then the free market should push workers into them and to form them. They are free to do so, so what gives?

"It's called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes this can be done imperceptibly over time."

Sure but if worker own businesses generate more profit for workers then the workers can use that wealth to buy, I mean lobby and later employ, officials just like other businesses no? I don't see why they cant do all the same corrupt regulatory capture stuff.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Yeah, that's why I don't think it's in the cards yet. On the other hand, things are very fluid now. Things that were unthinkable two months ago (e.g. Germany ending the 'debt brake') are happening now.

>Germany ending the 'debt brake') are happening now. Now what exactly they're goanna do with the extra debt is the question. More debt to fund innovation, infrastructure, defense, education and healthcare is welcome, but if it's just more debt to fund welfare and pensions, like Southern Europe, then nothing will improve.

It's to fund re-armament.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Economic nationalism is bad when Trump does it and bad when Europe does it too. We should have unilateral free trade. Ricardo showed this was better over 200 years ago.

It's a classic prisoner's dilemma. We'd all be better off if nobody started any trade wars, but the moment one party starts becoming hostile, everyone else must respond in kind or they'll be taken advantage of. I hoped Americans had stopped being stupid and elected better leaders, but Trump's re-election shows that America and its people do not care about being reliable business partners. Ridding ourselves of America…

But Ricardo determined the opposite. That unilateral free trade is better even in the face of tariffs. In the end, it's their own consumers that pay the tariffs.

If Trump wants to make Americans poorer then so be it, but we shouldn't follow suit.

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