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Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by matt-p »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #160
matt-p wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to use this, but notice it's hosted in the EU, is there any way of ensuring we go through UK servers only?

Our infra is split across France (our API, database, inbound servers etc.), Germany (backups) and UK (outbound SMTP servers). Unfortunately we haven't seen enough demand in the UK to set up a UK only infra (nor are there any UK cloud providers that would work for us?)

That's a shame. There are many UK cloud providers, who would work - what do you need, I'd be happy to make suggestions?

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by Xelbair »

rustc wrote: post #134
birjolaxew wrote: post #123

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> This would allow you to avoid displaying the cookie banner. That isn't actually true (or at least is only allowed in the "it's a small enough violation of the law that the enforcers have bigger fish to fry" sense). Cookie banners are required to gather informed consent, which is relevant for two EU legislations: the ePD, which requires it to access or store _any_ data from terminal equipment, and the GDPR which req…

> Despite Plausible's claim of not requiring cookie banners, their processing still accesses data from the terminal equipment. Since Plausible is selling a product that clearly claims this, who is on the hook in case a user of Plausible gets a fine?

I'm not a lawyer but Company using Plausible gets fined, but then they can sue Plausible. most likely.

But GDPR enforcement is more like 'you need to fix this, if you don't you get the fine' - if you are actually helpful and do your duty to improve the process the fine is usually reduced.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by Galatians4_16 »

tacker2000 wrote: post #136
reaperducer wrote: post #126

I think this is useful more than just actual Europeans. I'm an American, and my wife and I have been looking at "Made in…" labels on our products for decades. Not as a geopolitical protest; just as routine intellectual curiosity. Over the last five years or so, we've noticed a significant shift in the locations listed on the things we buy. A lot of what we buy used to read "Made in China" (and before that shift, "Mad…

Turkey is not part of the EU.

They should be.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by matt-p »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #160
matt-p wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to use this, but notice it's hosted in the EU, is there any way of ensuring we go through UK servers only?

Our infra is split across France (our API, database, inbound servers etc.), Germany (backups) and UK (outbound SMTP servers). Unfortunately we haven't seen enough demand in the UK to set up a UK only infra (nor are there any UK cloud providers that would work for us?)

For what it's worth we have to stand up a UK infrastructure for UK customers and EU for EU customers, it really sucks.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by jeroenhd »

onli wrote: post #154
guerrilla wrote: post #108

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Your arguments ignore externalities. You aren't saving 100 EUR. You pay for it in many other ways. There's no such thing as free lunch, as the saying goes. They're just hijacking your short-term thinking.

He isn't saving 100€ at all if Amazon's prices are higher than the competition, which is almost always true for every product I ever checked during the last five years, at least.

Prices vary wildly across Europe. Countries like Serbia have absolutely insane prices for basic products that are two thirds or half the cost across the border, sold by the same companies.

As much as Europe wants to be a single market sometimes, every country has different cultures and different economic situations. Where I live Amazon is never the cheapest option (and almost never the fastest to deliver), but 20km to the east of me it's a valid competitor to many online storefronts.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by tdrz »

ReptileMan wrote: post #146

The problem with buying European is that shipping between countries is nightmarishly expensive. If Brussels wants to try something useful - instead of bottle caps create a proper shipping network that can ship from Malaga to Vilinus in 2 days for 0.5 euro per KG. It is not that we don't have national postal companies. It is absurd to buy something for 15 euro in italy and pay 30 euro shipping to romania.

I understand that for you cheaper shipping options are important, but other people might find other things important. The EU has the capability to address multiple issues at a moment, so it should not be "instead of doing ". btw, shipping to Romania is expensive because infrastructure is still quite bad and the reliability of the national post is quite low. PS: Bottle caps that stay attached to the bottles is great!

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by jeroenhd »

mentalgear wrote: post #59

There's also a browser extension: https://codeberg.org/K-Robin/GoEuropean (btw: codeberg is the European alternative to Github)

Such a shame to see Gitlab go for gold in America rather than staying with its European basis. While Codeberg is absolutely fine in itself, I think Gitlab is a much better offering for many companies.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by deadbabe »

h1fra wrote: post #38

I'm always sad that very successful European companies got fully incorporated in the US: datadog, algolia, dataiku, dashlane, etc. Also it seems to be missing some techs company: pigment, aircall, contentsquare (but not sure if it's a mistake)

If they stayed in Europe they wouldn’t have been as successful.
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