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Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Greenland? Weirdly, Greenland is part of Denmark but _not_ part of the EU. Still the greatest US realignment in regard to Europe since the war.

Well, as Greenland is part of Denmark, the threat is against a member of the EU

Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark, but it's not part of the EU. It was originally part of the EU (back when it was the EEC) but voted to leave in a referendum in 1982, officially exiting in 1985. Today, Greenland has a special status called Overseas Country and Territory (OCT), meaning it has trade deals with the EU, but EU rules don't directly apply there.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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- "We are a group of individuals from across Europe who connected via the subreddit r/BuyfromEU."

Then, why do you promote a list of European Reddit "alternatives" such as "Lemmy", you say people are supposed to use instead?

This is the laziest form of internet activism there is: lecture people what you believe they're supposed to be doing in ways you don't yourself do, and can't be inconvenienced to try.

(Bonus points for building this boycott website on top of Amazon Cloudfront, Cloudflare, and Google Analytics).

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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post #7

This is such a shame, we should be looking to source and produce things globally and find better ways to improve the logistics and efficiency world-wide. Why would the EU take such a protective stance which only enforces isolation and increases cost? Edit: Thanks for the responses, I am still looking for a signal that tells my post is sarcasm multiplied by cynicism.

That doesn't really work as long as you have legislation like the CLOUD Act, which means EU-based businesses have to think twice about using any US providers, especially if they handle sensitive customer data and also since the DPF is on the way out.

Only because the US refuses to properly protect consumer privacy and seemingly can no longer be trusted at all. If Trump forces Microsoft to turn off Office 365 for example for the EU, or blocks AWS, GCP or Azure from doing business with the EU then European businesses are screwed. We’ve now realized these risks are potentially real and European countries are scrambling to look for alternatives (and realizing that they don’t really exist).

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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While I do find it an interesting exercise to reflect over my own choices of products and services and consider how I could divest myself from relying on ones provided by US companies (and I do agree Europe is too reliant on the US in some regards), it is a bit sad to see how quickly things are spiraling here. People really love to have a clear enemy...

Well, it's not really to have a clear enemy. It's an effort to avoid having one.

The day the US drops the Cloud Act would be the death of all European CSPs. Until then, cloud offerings not subject to it will thrive, and the US will be seen as hostile.

And for all other subjects, it's a simple matter of not putting all of your eggs in the same basket. Having privileged trade partners is a good thing, but it becomes a bad one when it's a partner (singular). Today, the US has full power on Europe's tech landscape, which is concerning, even if it's a friend country.

Oh, and I say a "friend country", but given the latest announcements where the US Govt. clearly targets Europe and wants to sanction it (e.g. tariffs on French exports), the friend is turning around.

TL;DR today Europe does not see the US as an enemy. But it does everything for it to never happen, and this include reducing the dependency on the US.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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post #25

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$ wget -qO - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... | pdftotext - - | grep -i banner | wc -l 0

You really think law would be such a highly sought-after and highly-compensated field if it was that easy?

That’s cynical and edgy, but misses the mark. There are several reasons why rules tend to be more specific about the outcomes than the ways to get there.

This decreases the attack surface for loopholes. What is desirable is the end result, not the technical details.

The law is actually clearer because the intent is clearly spelt out. The point of the law is to protect privacy, not cover every screen with cookies banners.

This leaves room for different implementations and flexibility (yay, competition).

It makes the law more resilient, because it does not need to be re-engineered every time anything happens. 10 years from now, even if cookies and banners have completely vanished, the core of the law will still be relevant.

This is why debates about the spirit and the letter of laws translate poorly across the Atlantic. Different places have different approaches.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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post #27
post #7

This is such a shame, we should be looking to source and produce things globally and find better ways to improve the logistics and efficiency world-wide. Why would the EU take such a protective stance which only enforces isolation and increases cost? Edit: Thanks for the responses, I am still looking for a signal that tells my post is sarcasm multiplied by cynicism.

Right now directories like this are getting popular mostly because they offer alternative to US products. Pretty sure Europeans would be happy to use a Canadian alternative to a US service.

As a European citizen, I'd say, indeed, I gladly consume Canadian products.

Furthermore, Canada should apply for EU or EEA membership.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Thank you for including the UK, we are still part of Europe! Added my company ( https://mailpace.com ) - I’m looking forward to a resurgence of innovation in European tech companies, the talent and education here is amazing, we just need to improve our investment and start treating tech with as much respect as we give to law, finance and other “prestigious” career paths here

I know that it's not in the cards (yet), but I hope the UK and the EU can be a single market again (even if the UK does not rejoin the EU). Let's make our market as large and attractive as possible! We love the UK and you are part of the European family :hugs:.

> Let's make our market as large and attractive as possible!

That would be the rational and sensible solution. This may be why it’s unlikely to happen. I would be happy to be wrong.

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