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Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

h1fra wrote: post #38

I'm always sad that very successful European companies got fully incorporated in the US: datadog, algolia, dataiku, dashlane, etc. Also it seems to be missing some techs company: pigment, aircall, contentsquare (but not sure if it's a mistake)

America loves investing in risky ventures, and startups love money so they go to fish where the fish are.

If Europe would invest into local startups instead of propping up the real estate bubble, they wouldn't sell themselves to the US for money. Our downfall is by our own design here.

Governments don't create startups but they can 100% create the right legal, monetary and tax incentives to steer private capital and workers towards them, but as long as they are steered towards protecting the interests of gentrified land owners and those of 100-year-old companies, nothing will ever change and we'll just stare at how US and Chinese companies are overtaking us.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by zppln »

While I do find it an interesting exercise to reflect over my own choices of products and services and consider how I could divest myself from relying on ones provided by US companies (and I do agree Europe is too reliant on the US in some regards), it is a bit sad to see how quickly things are spiraling here. People really love to have a clear enemy...

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by risyachka »

mertbio wrote: post #3

If you are advocating for European products, I would expect you to use Plausible or similar products instead of Google Analytics. This would allow you to avoid displaying the cookie banner.

They are used for different things. If you are doing paid marketing or other more or less complex marketing Plausible doesn’t cut it.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by pjc50 »

hans_castorp wrote: post #37
apeescape wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you seriously asking why? If you've paid any attention to the news in the past few weeks, you couldn't have missed the daily efforts by Trump and his cabinet to isolate the USA from its allies. In the past, European countries have trusted that the common values shared by the Western countries will ensure mutual cooperation now and in the future. Now this thinking has proven naive, as Trump has threatened Europe w…

> Trump has threatened Europe with He even threatened to invade a country that is part of the EU

Greenland? Weirdly, Greenland is part of Denmark but _not_ part of the EU. Still the greatest US realignment in regard to Europe since the war.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by Separo »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #33

Thank you for including the UK, we are still part of Europe! Added my company ( https://mailpace.com ) - I’m looking forward to a resurgence of innovation in European tech companies, the talent and education here is amazing, we just need to improve our investment and start treating tech with as much respect as we give to law, finance and other “prestigious” career paths here

> Thank you for including the UK, we are still part of Europe!

Always.

hug

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by 8organicbits »

dvh wrote: post #25
holowoodman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong. Functionally necessary cookies like login or shopping cart cookies need no banners.

$ wget -qO - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... | pdftotext - - | grep -i banner | wc -l 0

It doesn't mention "banner" because it doesn't prescribe the exact user interface. But people seeking to comply often choose the banner as a solution.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by bigfudge »

shafyy wrote: post #23
Geenkaas wrote: post #7

This is such a shame, we should be looking to source and produce things globally and find better ways to improve the logistics and efficiency world-wide. Why would the EU take such a protective stance which only enforces isolation and increases cost? Edit: Thanks for the responses, I am still looking for a signal that tells my post is sarcasm multiplied by cynicism.

Yes, and ideally we would have no wars, either. But because of fucking psychos like Putin, Trump, Xi Jinping and many more, we do. Therefore, unfortunately, it makes sense for EU to decrease their economic dependence on outside players like the US and China.

I think it's important that we _do_ also include China in this. It's not just that Trump has demonstrated that the US is unreliable. We have also seen (again) that sociopaths in charge of authoritarian regimes can do things that are perfectly capable of acting against their own economic interests for political, cultural, religious reasons.

Depending on global interconnectedness of markets has not and will not save us. We need to divest and disconnect from all economies which are not reliable liberal democracies which broadly share our values.

I would include in this Hungary: We should be giving serious thought to how to kick them out of the EU.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by vanrohan »

Lio wrote: post #30
vanrohan wrote: post #20

Great to see a directory like this starting to include physical products. I'd be interested in having some extra datapoints to help with decision making: - How much of the product/company's supply chain is in EU (to get an idea of just how European the product is, is it made here or abroad) - Some way to show if the company is paying "fair" tax in EU (or are profits shifted abroad) These are difficult datapoints to g…

It might be worth noting that this is not specific to the EU, it's the whole of Europe. So for example it includes companies from Norway, Switerzland and the UK. So asking how much tax is paid or how much supply chain is in the EU doesn't necissarily make sense here.

Im not particularly fussy if it's EU or European. The idea is more to get insight if it's just a dropshipper/reseller type of business, or involved in regional manufacturing.

Re: Go European: Discover European products and services

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

hyperbrainer wrote: post #40
dvh wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$ wget -qO - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELE... | pdftotext - - | grep -i banner | wc -l 0

You really think law would be such a highly sought-after and highly-compensated field if it was that easy?

It should be easy.
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