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Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fwiw, it's a webkit-based browser. Another alternative browser engine in a usable browser is a plus for the Ecosystem. On the other hand, it promises to be a simple yet usable (builtin adblock + privacy) browser. Ime, brave is probably the closest however it has a lot of nagging around their crypto and ads.

Kagi has crypto now too? I thought that was just brave.

The comment you replied to is also saying that they find the Brave crypto annoying.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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post #7

I've been loving Kagi search and am really looking forward to Orion being available outside Apple land. You can join the email list here: https://kagi.com/changelog#6479 I'm a bit worried that Kagi might be over-extending here. Instead of focusing and capitalizing on search, they're expanding to the difficult business of browsers. I'm always hesitant when companies try to do everything everywhere all at once, since t…

They started with Orion.

Oh really? I did not know that. Sounds a lot better than the other way around

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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post #2

I tried out paid kagi for a 3 months (even if you pay in bitcoin they still require your address). One thing you might want to know before going in is that Kagi does not return many search results. It never returns more than two short pages of results (~100). It is impossible to use Kagi like you'd use a search engine from 1995-2015 to 'surf' the web and find things by accident. That said, google only ever returns I…

Can you explain your use case? Looking at hundreds of results from a search query doesn't strike me as "finding things by accident", but I'm curious to know more.

I used to do this too - it used to be that after you passed the first couple of pages of results from the major/mainstream sites the rest would be minor personal websites, forums, and similar. Find one good article on one of them and it was often worth adding to your bookmarks or RSS collection to ensure you saw the writer's later additions.

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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post #2

I tried out paid kagi for a 3 months (even if you pay in bitcoin they still require your address). One thing you might want to know before going in is that Kagi does not return many search results. It never returns more than two short pages of results (~100). It is impossible to use Kagi like you'd use a search engine from 1995-2015 to 'surf' the web and find things by accident. That said, google only ever returns I…

They probably need your address for tax purposes. Especially the EU is really strict on charging us VAT for foreign purchases. It does completely kill the anonymity though, I agree. It's strange that in this case they're worse than something like duck duck go. Because they don't require payment they simply have less data on you (especially confirmed data). I'm sure kagi protects it but the data you don't even have is…

You can detach searching from any association with your paid account:

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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Orion on iOS has been life changing for me.

can you expound on this "life change"?

Not who you are responding to, but it properly blocks ads. I can actually view things like recipes on mobile. It's great! (Blocks YT ads too.)

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Full manifest v2 ublock origin on an iOS browser is pretty amazing.

You got me excited and I installed it but uBlock Origin does not work and is not supported on iOS. If you have it installed and it appears to be working, it’s probably the default native ad blocker that’s doing the work. https://orionfeedback.org/d/9145-ublock-origin-not-existent-...

Wait... so they browser says it's supports manifest v2 and lets you install v2 extensions, but then they just silently don't work? That's pretty confusing behavior. Why even offer them if they're blocked on an OS level?

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

#38
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fwiw, it's a webkit-based browser. Another alternative browser engine in a usable browser is a plus for the Ecosystem. On the other hand, it promises to be a simple yet usable (builtin adblock + privacy) browser. Ime, brave is probably the closest however it has a lot of nagging around their crypto and ads.

Kagi has crypto now too? I thought that was just brave.

Kagi does not have crypto

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

#39

Orion for macOS is still pretty buggy and, in my experience, a bit too frustrating to use as my default browser. I want to use it and pay the $5/month even though I don't use it all the time. It's close to being good, but not quite there yet.

Yeah, I basically give orion a try every few months, I think the idea is fantastic. But it just hasn't ever hit the level of bug-free reliability that I would need, especially with extension compatibility. (Can't say this is surprising at all - making a web browser would be a ton of work even if the web wasn't a moving target)

It does seem like their long tail of issues is going down - each time I check in, it is clearly improved. So fingers crossed it continues to get better ...

Re: Kagi Is Bringing Orion Web Browser to Linux

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post #30

Orion for macOS is still pretty buggy and, in my experience, a bit too frustrating to use as my default browser. I want to use it and pay the $5/month even though I don't use it all the time. It's close to being good, but not quite there yet.

Some bugs are pretty bad. There was one that drained my battery in 30mins. But I know it is difficult for a small team.

How long ago was that? I've been seeing consistent progress on bugginess.
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