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Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Is that right? You make me concerned. Could you suggest a source please? Thank you.

https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/7/1603/2738489 > Cafestol, a diterpene present in unfiltered coffee brews such as Scandinavian boiled, Turkish, and cafetière coffee, is the most potent cholesterol-elevating compound known in the human diet.

Well son of a gun, I'm on statins and drink a pint of French press a day.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#122

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

> Is this a valid study? It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

"cream" for coffee can be half and half, milk, that coffee mate sugary stuff, or powdered non dairy creamer.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#123

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

> Is this a valid study? It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

When Americans put "cream" in their coffee, it's often actually milk. Especially if they are making it at home (most people I know don't keep half-and-half in the fridge just for coffee). So kind of a cousin of a cappuccino.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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> Who puts cream in their coffee?! Lots of people all over Europe too

Europeans doing this is something new to me. Where in Europe is it common?

Austrians do it ("einspänner" and "melange") - Germans and French will have that (called "wiener" style or "vienois"). Italians have their "Espresso con panna" (literally: "Espresso with cream") - would also use. The Swiss will often take their coffee with cream too. In Czech republic it's "kafe se šlehačkou", in Greece it's common in capuccinos or added at will to black coffee.

Whipped creme is perhaps the most common form (cream + sugar whipped).

Not sure about "half and half" though, think that's just an American thing / product.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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> Who puts cream in their coffee?! Lots of people all over Europe too

Where? I've been most places and never encountered this. It should be noted that in the US "half and half" is popular which isn't a thing in Europe but would be referred to as "cream" by Americans.

>Where? I've been most places and never encountered this

See my answer above. Did you ask for one of the styles with cream, or specifically for cream?

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Maybe putting sugar into your body without fiber has never happened in the history of human nature, and it's fool-hardy.

Maybe eating honey has never happened in the history of human nature, and it's fool-hardy.

Not much of eating it alone!

But, good point I forgot about.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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yes, thus their point. It's probably not the sweetener or sugar in the coffee, it's that folks who add sweetener are also more likely to have a lifestyle that gives them type 2.

Or a separate effect where people whose doctors tell them they’re a diabetes risk tend to make a token switch to artificial sweeteners, but don’t take other, more effective steps.

Hopefully their doctors would also have told them that using artificial sweeteners doesn't help protect against insulin resistance.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#128

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Does "antioxidant" there just refer to tannin, really? If you like tea strong, it's necessary to add some milk to bind to some of the tannins so it remains drinkable and doesn't try to turn your esophagus to leather.

> it's necessary This is silly, many societies drink tons of strong black tea without polluting it with milk or sugar, and do just fine. (I come from one, and have never had any problems with my esophagus — maybe it has already turned into leather without me noticing?) It does often cause nausea on an empty stomach, though, so filling it with something first might actually be useful.

you don’t need milk per se. you just need something that your body can digest alongside the tannin. i love strong tea and have had to be saved more than once from cramping and dry heaving from tannin overload.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#129

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Why would sugar be bad?

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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my go to drink for pancreatic terrorism as of late is Dunkin Donut's Caramel Creme Frozen Coffee - Large at 172g of sugar per serving

I can't believe it's even legal to sell those. That seems simply insane.

My best guess, and I've thought about this a lot, is that chronic illness drives billions of dollars of direct economic activity.

Of course, illness has an even larger cost to society and to overall happiness, but that's much less measurable, and therefore has less effect on public policy.

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