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Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by consp »

sky2224 wrote: post #48
kacesensitive wrote: post #28

Breaking: sugar causes diabetes

The specific thing I'm pointing out is sugar in drinks. As someone pointed out in the thread I linked, it seems like there's a big difference in how your body handles liquid sugar versus sugar that's in food. There are plenty of people that have lots of sugar in food (i.e., a lot American food has copious amounts of sugar in breads and other non-sweet type food) but don't have diabetes.

There are many types of sugar and digestive pathways. Solid vs liquid intake tells you hardly anything. Until someone tests liquid vs solid dextrose difference and then for all other types I'm not going to be impressed. Time chewing is also a factor for food.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by sgt »

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #15
m463 wrote: post #7

I kind of wonder if this is just caffeine and higher metabolism, weight loss. Like caffeine might work. but meth might work too.

Nah. I’m fat (6’5”, 450lbs), and my A1C is excellent. Maybe it’s all the coffee I drink, though I do use artificial sweetener…

That's a lot of weight to carry around, but at least you're reasonably tall so that helps.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by ForTheKidz »

sgt wrote: post #50
alliao wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

my go to drink for pancreatic terrorism as of late is Dunkin Donut's Caramel Creme Frozen Coffee - Large at 172g of sugar per serving

How much is a donut? I think Elon Musk says he eats quite a few through the day. Yet he's healthy as an old race horse.

I thought the bad part about donuts was the being fried part

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by _cenw »

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #15
m463 wrote: post #7

I kind of wonder if this is just caffeine and higher metabolism, weight loss. Like caffeine might work. but meth might work too.

Nah. I’m fat (6’5”, 450lbs), and my A1C is excellent. Maybe it’s all the coffee I drink, though I do use artificial sweetener…

At this point people should know that T2D predisposition is mostly inherited (in fact more heritable than T1), the trigger is just better understood. Most of the time at least - people still get it without the stereotypical risk factors.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by DidYaWipe »

fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Also: Does the addition of milk to coffee nullify or reduce its antioxidant effects, the way it reportedly does to tea?

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by kla-s »

kacesensitive wrote: post #28

Breaking: sugar causes diabetes

To add some nuance, unused/unnecessary sugar will cause diabetes. If you are in high cardiovascular load consuming more than you can take in as eg with long distance triathlon, to my knowledge you will not increase your diabetes risk. It's more a matching supply and demand thing.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by skissane »

fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

> Is this a valid study?

It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by DidYaWipe »

genewitch wrote: post #40
sky2224 wrote: post #2

Somewhat related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193 It seems like having sugary drinks is not just bad for you, but like really bad for you.

I made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do put a splash of heavy cream in my coffee, otherwise I wouldn't drink coffee at all, as unsweet iced tea is a more palatable flavor to me. But I don't like hot tea or cold coffee. I understand cream has calories, but I have to take a small bit of fat to allow ce…

Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex.

Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by rukshn »

Something that my medical professor used to tell us was that sugar and salt are man made things (processed sugar). And not something we found in nature and something that our bodies are not evolutionary developed to handle. So too much of salt and sugar was a good thing.

So which makes sense

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by mistercow »

jemmyw wrote: post #30
blackqueeriroh wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that the change in the impact also happened with artificial sweetener.

yes, thus their point. It's probably not the sweetener or sugar in the coffee, it's that folks who add sweetener are also more likely to have a lifestyle that gives them type 2.

Or a separate effect where people whose doctors tell them they’re a diabetes risk tend to make a token switch to artificial sweeteners, but don’t take other, more effective steps.
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