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AI 'wingmen' bots to write profiles and flirt on dating apps

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Re: AI 'wingmen' bots to write profiles and flirt on dating apps

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Post by asah »

kylecazar wrote: post #2

"may degrade an already precarious online environment" Not may, will. Furthermore, I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this. It entirely defeats the purpose of interacting with people. If you are awkward, with enough time you will either find someone who is also awkward, or someone who doesn't care/finds it endearing. Having a bot generate dialog for you is a weird step backwa…

I believe the argument is that tools/bots can help a person's self confidence.

This argument breaks down when the other side is using a bot to respond, which of course they are.

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Post by pinko »

kylecazar wrote: post #2

"may degrade an already precarious online environment" Not may, will. Furthermore, I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this. It entirely defeats the purpose of interacting with people. If you are awkward, with enough time you will either find someone who is also awkward, or someone who doesn't care/finds it endearing. Having a bot generate dialog for you is a weird step backwa…

> I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this

If your sociopathic goal is solely to trick someone into an in-person date at which they might be too socially insecure (or too desperate for companionship) to decline sex, then it's a win for the person faking themselves.

This is definitely a sign that online dating apps as a whole are circling the drain, though.

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Post by lazide »

kylecazar wrote: post #2

"may degrade an already precarious online environment" Not may, will. Furthermore, I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this. It entirely defeats the purpose of interacting with people. If you are awkward, with enough time you will either find someone who is also awkward, or someone who doesn't care/finds it endearing. Having a bot generate dialog for you is a weird step backwa…

Dating apps were never legitimate interaction anyway.

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Post by redeux »

This is not the future we need. Humans need real emotional connection. Hell, it’s right in the middle of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and fundamental to both self-esteem and self-actualization[0].

In order to develop true friendship, whether plutonic or romanic, there has to be a base of authenticity. Otherwise the relationship is built on deceit and will eventually erode. Obviously inserting an AI between you and a potential friend or parter is not in line with building the foundation of a healthy relationship.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

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Post by johnisgood »

gedy wrote: post #7

Online "dating" that involves texting is just such a terrible fit. Most people either have poor reading comprehension or lack ability to write clearly, and that's the worst combo for relationship building. It's really no surprise that "dating" apps devolve into clicking a picture and hooking up for sex.

Texting only sure sucks, you need to be on cam and talk through the mic at the very least.

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Post by smusamashah »

This is a low tech replication of black mirror episode where a guy and girl fell in love with each other after first date. Realised something is wrong with the world and tried to exit the simulation. In the real world, those two were decided by AI as a match because these two passed the challenge together in simulation.

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Post by ta12653421 »

Carrok wrote: post #9

So happy I’m married already. Dating today seems like such a nightmare and this will only make it worse.

Coming out of nearly exactly 12.75 years long-term-relationship and trying currently these apps, i can confirm to you: TRUE.

I do not know whats up with the people: Couple of weeks ago i had a dad, she had also 2 children; during the discussion it turned out that they have a battle regarding who is responsible for cleaning the bathroom+WC; i was shocked about their frequency (3 people!), so i said: why dont just get a cleaning support? In my language, there is a difference between male and female wording - since its very "common language", i used the "female version" of the cleaning support personel as most people do over here - then i got a punch for how irrespectful and sexist i am for using this wording and why i do not use a "neutral" version.

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Post by Arkhadia »

deadbabe wrote: post #5

In my experience I’ve found that people can struggle on real life dates regardless of whether they used AI or not. Sending messages back and forth, having minutes or hours to craft a perfect response is far different than having a conversation in person. That smooth talker who said all the right things in text turns out to be nothing more than a fumbling marble mouth in person. That’s why if you’re online dating you…

I enjoyed reading your thoughts here. I’ve been saying it for years how dating apps capitalize on the same addiction and human traits that casinos do.

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Post by maratc »

redeux wrote: post #14

This is not the future we need. Humans need real emotional connection. Hell, it’s right in the middle of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs and fundamental to both self-esteem and self-actualization[0]. In order to develop true friendship, whether plutonic or romanic, there has to be a base of authenticity. Otherwise the relationship is built on deceit and will eventually erode. Obviously inserting an AI between you and a p…

But maybe if both sides are using AI bots, then the two bots fall on the same level of authenticity, and then it's not a problem.

I have a feeling that shortly it's gonna be all robots talking to robots.

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Post by Oarch »

Carrok wrote: post #9

So happy I’m married already. Dating today seems like such a nightmare and this will only make it worse.

It's very brute force. The apps often ignore filters you've set - even those you've paid for access to!

It's partly just a feeling but I can sometimes feel changes in the algorithm and they're never for the better, unfortunately.

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