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Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Is it actually cream they put in? So weird, why not just use milk?

Can't make a cappuccino with heavy whipping cream it won't foam. Half and half is doable. As for why cream or half and half, less sugar and lactose.

Whole milk works fine and is more commonly used

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#112

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Is that right? You make me concerned. Could you suggest a source please? Thank you.

Coffee does contain oils that will "increase cholesterol" (meaning increase LDL/bad cholesterol specifically). Filters reduce the oil significantly but unfiltered methods like cafetière and espresso (which is the basis of cappuccino etc) let it all through. It's something to think about if your drinking many unfiltered coffees a day. It is possible to add a filter to espresso if you brew it yourself.

How much oil relative to eating some cheese? I imagine it’s not much.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#113

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Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...

I have tried so many coffees. I have a 25 bar espresso machine (15 bar? i forget), a bunn commercial vacuum-flask machine, a generic k-cup and a french press. I've done cold brew myself, many many times. I've had every brew at CB&TL, starbucks, The Human Bean, Dutch Bros coffee co. I've tried most brands and most roasts. I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. I just really like tea, mor…

> I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y.

As I understand it, the darker the roast the more caffeine has been “burnt” off, so this would explain what you’re describing.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#114

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

> Is this a valid study? It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

McDonalds puts cream and sugar in your coffee by default.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#115

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One is not like the other though. How does espresso increase cholesterol, it's just water and coffee in there, just like filter?

It's the cafestol that's in the coffee: https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/7/1603/2738489 Filter coffee uses a paper filter and paper filters can trap most of the cafestol.

Thank you, it sounds a little like a meme, and I had never heard of it. :)

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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That's semi-reasonable in America, but less so in any country with single-payer health care. Like smoking, there are serious effects later in life that cost money to treat; this makes for a compelling case for a sin tax IMO, like we have for tobacco and liquor here in Canada.

It’s the root of the toxic nature of American culture. We worship the “freedom” to have bad outcomes shoved in our faces, but castigate and actively harm anyone who falls afoul as a result. From my limited travels in Europe, I see countries with problems, but with people who appear to be happier and healthier.

"God gave us free will" and we're all equal, so if i can do it and you can't...

mental health care, addiction treatment, obesity, college loans. At the root of it all, even if they won't admit it directly.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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I have tried so many coffees. I have a 25 bar espresso machine (15 bar? i forget), a bunn commercial vacuum-flask machine, a generic k-cup and a french press. I've done cold brew myself, many many times. I've had every brew at CB&TL, starbucks, The Human Bean, Dutch Bros coffee co. I've tried most brands and most roasts. I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. I just really like tea, mor…

> I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y. As I understand it, the darker the roast the more caffeine has been “burnt” off, so this would explain what you’re describing.

Right, however, apparently the light roasts i have tried are darker than the darkest roasts of ... whatever supplier someone else uses.

It's weird that i feel like we're talking about illicit drugs.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#118

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Regardless of how valid the study is, it is most likely useless.

These kinds of studies have been done for decades and type 2 diabetes rates have only gone up.

There has been clear evidence for decades that obesity and high carb diets increase risk of diabetes. Comparing tea to coffee or Skittles to m&Ms is a useless research project as far as diabetes goes. Because it is extremely unlikely that someone will discover that the cure for diabetes was a small change in lifestyle like that.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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I want at least studies about ADHD meds and all the people who took them long term. It will probably end up similar to nicotine.

I think most of the risk from nicotine consumption is inhaling smoke, not the nicotine itself.

Nicotine is subtly addictive. I was a chain smoker at a young age, getting off it took months of withdrawal.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Can't make a cappuccino with heavy whipping cream it won't foam. Half and half is doable. As for why cream or half and half, less sugar and lactose.

Whole milk works fine and is more commonly used

Can’t delete my comment any more, misread the parent comment while it was too early in the morning!
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