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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by globular-toast » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:34 AM UTC

rich_sasha wrote: post #74

kyykky wrote: post #71

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Espresso/cappuccino usage will increase cholesterol in blood. Consider drinking filtered coffee instead.

Is that right? You make me concerned. Could you suggest a source please? Thank you.

Coffee does contain oils that will "increase cholesterol" (meaning increase LDL/bad cholesterol specifically). Filters reduce the oil significantly but unfiltered methods like cafetière and espresso (which is the basis of cappuccino etc) let it all through. It's something to think about if your drinking many unfiltered coffees a day. It is possible to add a filter to espresso if you brew it yourself.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by ahoka » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:35 AM UTC

alliao wrote: post #14

butterlettuce wrote: post #3

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40g of sugar in one can of soda is pancreatic terrorism. I always wonder why I see “quit smoking” PSAs on TV, but not for sugar bombs like soda or even Starbucks fraps.

my go to drink for pancreatic terrorism as of late is Dunkin Donut's Caramel Creme Frozen Coffee - Large at 172g of sugar per serving

Well with the proposed cut of Medicaid the problem will solve itself. It will be harder to go to Dunkin Donuts without legs.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by globular-toast » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:43 AM UTC

butterlettuce wrote: post #3

sky2224 wrote: post #2

Somewhat related post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42625193 It seems like having sugary drinks is not just bad for you, but like really bad for you.

40g of sugar in one can of soda is pancreatic terrorism. I always wonder why I see “quit smoking” PSAs on TV, but not for sugar bombs like soda or even Starbucks fraps.

We haven't come to generally accept food as an addiction yet. We still talk about obesity (a symptom) and not food addiction (the problem). It would be like saying lung cancer is a problem but only very vaguely hinting that you might want to cut down on the smoking.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by globular-toast » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:46 AM UTC

xethos wrote: post #33

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Your body, your choice. At least with cigarettes there was a public nuisance argument because of the smell and also the secondhand effect. I dont find general public health a compelling argument for restricting sugar.

That's semi-reasonable in America, but less so in any country with single-payer health care. Like smoking, there are serious effects later in life that cost money to treat; this makes for a compelling case for a sin tax IMO, like we have for tobacco and liquor here in Canada.

> That's semi-reasonable in America

Is it? You'll either have higher health insurance costs to cover the people destroying their bodies, or you'll have to prove to your insurance provider that you live a healthy lifestyle somehow. Both seem like a bad thing.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by daviddavis » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:49 AM UTC

fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

It’s a study with Walter Willett and Frank Hu, who are probably the most highly regarded nutritional researchers working in the field.

Here’s a great video about how these researchers are using big data to reveal insights into nutrition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8JQtwLNKXg

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by globular-toast » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:54 AM UTC

DidYaWipe wrote: post #58

genewitch wrote: post #40

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I made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do put a splash of heavy cream in my coffee, otherwise I wouldn't drink coffee at all, as unsweet iced tea is a more palatable flavor to me. But I don't like hot tea or cold coffee. I understand cream has calories, but I have to take a small bit of fat to allow ce…

Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...

This. I would also consider a V60. Note the grinder is the most important bit and should set you back at least 10x as much as the brewer. Note also that pour over coffee is a skill and it will take a while to learn to brew nice coffee that can be (should be) enjoyed black. Also, if you buy "speciality" beans then their highest level of roast is still lighter than what Starbucks would call "light".

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by DANmode » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 8:59 AM UTC

fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Maybe putting sugar into your body without fiber has never happened in the history of human nature, and it's fool-hardy.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by genewitch » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 9:16 AM UTC

DidYaWipe wrote: post #58

genewitch wrote: post #40

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I made a decision about 13 or 14 years ago to not drink my calories and it took another 11 years to actually cease all liquid calories - booze has a lot. I do put a splash of heavy cream in my coffee, otherwise I wouldn't drink coffee at all, as unsweet iced tea is a more palatable flavor to me. But I don't like hot tea or cold coffee. I understand cream has calories, but I have to take a small bit of fat to allow ce…

Try better coffee. Seriously. Get LIGHT-roast beans, grind them yourself, and get a Chemex. Dark-roasted coffee is shitty beans that are burned to cover up their poor quality: https://medium.com/@stoffel.brian/the-real-reason-coffee-at-...

I have tried so many coffees. I have a 25 bar espresso machine (15 bar? i forget), a bunn commercial vacuum-flask machine, a generic k-cup and a french press. I've done cold brew myself, many many times. I've had every brew at CB&TL, starbucks, The Human Bean, Dutch Bros coffee co. I've tried most brands and most roasts.

I do like light roasts, except i "feel" they're a bit too caffiene-y.

I just really like tea, more. PG Tips, Uncle Lee's green, tisanes of all descriptions. It's more "refreshing" to me. Personal preference.

also i noted the reason i don't mind the cream, other than it's delicious - i need literal fat for certain medications. If i don't have coffee a couple hours after getting up, i'll eat a tablespoon of peanut butter for the same result.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by animal531 » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 9:17 AM UTC

skissane wrote: post #57

fumufumu wrote: post #42

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

> Is this a valid study? It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

Is it actually cream they put in? So weird, why not just use milk?

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Post by nashashmi » Sat, Mar 08, 2025, 9:27 AM UTC

I stopped coffee. My sugar levels went up and my weight went up too. Coffee kept me working hard. It also affected my bowel movement negatively. So no coffee meant lazier, more nutritious lifestyle.