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Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#101

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> Is this a valid study? It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

Is it actually cream they put in? So weird, why not just use milk?

Can't make a cappuccino with heavy whipping cream it won't foam. Half and half is doable.

As for why cream or half and half, less sugar and lactose.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#102
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> Who puts cream in their coffee?! Lots of people all over Europe too

Where? I've been most places and never encountered this. It should be noted that in the US "half and half" is popular which isn't a thing in Europe but would be referred to as "cream" by Americans.

We make the distinction between half and half and cream. If I goto a diner there's usually both light cream and half&half available for coffee in plastic mini-creamers.

EDIT: applies to NY/NJ, US

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#103
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> Is this a valid study? It’s a very American study. Who puts cream in their coffee?! And what about cappuccinos? (Almost all of my coffee consumption is cappuccinos…)

Espresso/cappuccino usage will increase cholesterol in blood. Consider drinking filtered coffee instead.

I believe this is the reason that the AeroPress uses paper filters to reduce the cafestol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cafestol) significantly. Personally, I prefer using permanent metal filters in my AeroPress (for the flavour more than anything), but then I don't have high cholesterol so am not concerned about it and cafestol has been shown to be anti-carcinogenic and neuroprotective in animal studies.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#104

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Coffee and sugar are like oil and water: you can try all you want to mix them but they will never form a whole. No matter how long you stir it... you take a sip, and there's a coffee flavor over here and a sugar flavor over there.

Disagree, I use a tsp of cane sugar in mine, you can't agitate it efficiently by hand and it needs to be piping hot to help it dissolute. You need something like a cheap $10 handheld milk frother/mixer or something that can get into it better than your hand going anti-clockwise. I typically add a small amount of hot water and get a thick sweet enough paste then add more hot water if I'm doing instant and for ground the same but add a strain step at the end.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#105
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Espresso/cappuccino usage will increase cholesterol in blood. Consider drinking filtered coffee instead.

This doesn’t make any sense - chemically espresso and filtered coffee are very similar. There are some subtle differences which contribute to the differences in taste between them, but it seems unlikely those make any contribution to cholesterol Drinking a lot of cappuccinos could potentially raise cholesterol levels due to heavy milk consumption. But if you have them with skim milk, that reduces that problem. Plus I…

It's the paper filter that absorbs most of the cafestol (which can raise LDL cholesterol).

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#106

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

> Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor)

Is this a valid question? most critiques without any supporting evidence are pretty poor

really? "most" dietary studies? so 'most' of what we know about nutrition and diets is pretty poor? In the past 75 years there was no real nutrition science done?

The authors affiliations are below[1], are you saying they have no idea how to conduct a valid study? Why are you dismissing a study out of hand, with anecdotes and cliches, instead of reading it and commenting on what's actually published?

Why are you anti-science?

[1]

Department of Nutrition, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, Boston, MA, United States

Department of Preventive Medicine and Public Health, University of Navarra—IdiSNA (Instituto de Investigacion Sanitaria de Navarra), Pamplona, Spain

Department of Nutritional Sciences, Temerty Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Toronto 3D Knowledge Synthesis and Clinical Trials Unit, Clinical Nutrition and Risk Factor Modification Centre, St. Michael’s Hospital, Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Department of Epidemiology, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, Boston, MA, United States

CIBER Fisiopatología de La Obesidad y Nutrición (CIBERObn), Instituto de Salud Carlos III, Madrid, Spain

Channing Division of Network Medicine, Department of Medicine, Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA, United States

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#107
post #71

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Espresso/cappuccino usage will increase cholesterol in blood. Consider drinking filtered coffee instead.

One is not like the other though. How does espresso increase cholesterol, it's just water and coffee in there, just like filter?

It's the cafestol that's in the coffee: https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/7/1603/2738489

Filter coffee uses a paper filter and paper filters can trap most of the cafestol.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#108
post #71

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Espresso/cappuccino usage will increase cholesterol in blood. Consider drinking filtered coffee instead.

Is that right? You make me concerned. Could you suggest a source please? Thank you.

https://academic.oup.com/mend/article/21/7/1603/2738489

> Cafestol, a diterpene present in unfiltered coffee brews such as Scandinavian boiled, Turkish, and cafetière coffee, is the most potent cholesterol-elevating compound known in the human diet.

Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#109

Is this a valid study? (most dietary studies are pretty poor) Is it the lack of sugar or is that people who don't put sugar in their coffee have a bunch of other things they do? Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are less likely to eat donuts. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more likely to workout. Maybe people who don't put sugar in their coffee are more like to have better genes f…

Coffee and sugar are like oil and water: you can try all you want to mix them but they will never form a whole. No matter how long you stir it... you take a sip, and there's a coffee flavor over here and a sugar flavor over there.

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Re: Coffee reduces risk of Type 2 Diabetes; okay to add cream, but not sweetener

#110
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Something that my medical professor used to tell us was that sugar and salt are man made things (processed sugar). And not something we found in nature and something that our bodies are not evolutionary developed to handle. So too much of salt and sugar was a good thing. So which makes sense

Salt is manmade? Ever visit a saltmine?

Or a sea/ocean
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