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Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

tim-- wrote: post #49
burningChrome wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other. I can't think of any company off the top of my head that has acquired a company and successfully integrated their tech stack into their own product offering. I work for a huge health care company whose stated goals are to grow through acquisition and in the 5 years I've been here, none of the painfully long…

Apple with TestFlight (Burstly) comes to mind.

Facebook with Instagram seems to work okay too from my limited interactions with both. No idea if it's held together by spit and duct-tape though.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

burningChrome wrote: post #16
hinkley wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other. And they still haven’t finished making deployments have feature parity with builds in Bamboo. I made it partway through the interview process at a startup a couple weeks ago and realized I didn’t have a good answer if they asked my advice for what to use for project management, if not Atlassian. Which was fair…

>> Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other. I can't think of any company off the top of my head that has acquired a company and successfully integrated their tech stack into their own product offering. I work for a huge health care company whose stated goals are to grow through acquisition and in the 5 years I've been here, none of the painfully long…

A company I worked at acquired a competing company for their customer base before I started. I believe there was integration of a pricing service into the newly acquired business' system as well as point of sale system updates that could talk to both backends, but there was strong motivation here to have uninterrupted service and to keep costs low. Before too long the acquired company's systems were phased out and all customers were migrated to the new systems.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

gregdoesit wrote: post #23

The most bizarre OpsGenie story was how in 2022, this tool was down for 2 weeks for hundreds of unlucky companies that were Atlassian customers. This was at a time when JIRA had an outage impacting a small percentage of their customer base - but still in the hundreds of organizations (with around tens of thousands of users.) While most companies can operate for some time without JIRA: losing your paging service means…

Ah, I remember that outage. My company was still of self-hosted Jira at that time.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

Aeolun wrote: post #59

This thread has four different promotions for alternative services I’ve seen. Is this an Atlassian thing? Where everyone dislikes their stiluff so much they want to build their own? Or is it like time-tracking, which is something everyone has built at least once in their career as a programmer?

> Where everyone dislikes their stuff so much they want to build their own?

Probably part of it but every job I've had has used a different alerting service anyway (sometimes multiple).

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

haney wrote: post #32

It's wild to me that they would acquire a company for $295m and then shut it down six years later. I'd be really curious to know if this is a failed acquisition or if they think they'll be able to retain previous ops genie customers on their new products.

Yeah I don't know what Atlassian's strategy was - presumably they were chasing growth and new customers, but I've never worked at a company that has paid for anything more than Jira and Confluence. I'm sure they have a whole list of other services but I've never personally known anyone to use them.

Actually one company I was at did use Stride and it was truly awful - I don't know how its product manager thought it could compete without such basic features as... the ability to edit and delete a message. But some fool at the company I was at chose it because it was cheaper than Slack.

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Post by throw16180339 »

burningChrome wrote: post #16
hinkley wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other. And they still haven’t finished making deployments have feature parity with builds in Bamboo. I made it partway through the interview process at a startup a couple weeks ago and realized I didn’t have a good answer if they asked my advice for what to use for project management, if not Atlassian. Which was fair…

>> Atlassian is nothing if not consistently mediocre at integrating their purchased properties into each other. I can't think of any company off the top of my head that has acquired a company and successfully integrated their tech stack into their own product offering. I work for a huge health care company whose stated goals are to grow through acquisition and in the 5 years I've been here, none of the painfully long…

Cisco Systems has had numerous successful acquisitions with integrated product lines.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by progmetaldev »

jamesfinlayson wrote: post #65
haney wrote: post #32

It's wild to me that they would acquire a company for $295m and then shut it down six years later. I'd be really curious to know if this is a failed acquisition or if they think they'll be able to retain previous ops genie customers on their new products.

Yeah I don't know what Atlassian's strategy was - presumably they were chasing growth and new customers, but I've never worked at a company that has paid for anything more than Jira and Confluence. I'm sure they have a whole list of other services but I've never personally known anyone to use them. Actually one company I was at did use Stride and it was truly awful - I don't know how its product manager thought it co…

I was using BitBucket for a while, to have paid access to private Mercurial repositories. Once they decided they no longer wanted to support Mercurial, and go with Git, I decided it was best to cut my losses and move to GitHub's paid plans. Atlassian has not handled offboarding of products very well.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by progmetaldev »

devmor wrote: post #15
datadrivenangel wrote: post #14

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What's the answer? Excel?

I'm a fan of whiteboard and sticky notes! Distributed scaling is a little difficult, you have to set up a webcam and hire an intern to move things around, but it's probably still cheaper than a lot of enterprise solutions.

This is honestly a solid solution, and one that actually feels more "connected" with your coworkers than a website without dark mode, to determine your current sprints or whatever methodology you use.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by lytfyre »

devmor wrote: post #15
datadrivenangel wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the answer? Excel?

I'm a fan of whiteboard and sticky notes! Distributed scaling is a little difficult, you have to set up a webcam and hire an intern to move things around, but it's probably still cheaper than a lot of enterprise solutions.

On an old team that did this, we joked that the cleaning staff had as much control of the roadmap as the product managers. The cheap offbrand sticky notes didn't stick very well, so after one or two status changes, or just being on the wall for a while, they tended to fall to the floor. If we were lucky they'd get stuck somewhere at random, and not just thrown out.

Re: Atlassian announces end of support for Opsgenie

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Post by jamesfinlayson »

progmetaldev wrote: post #67
jamesfinlayson wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I don't know what Atlassian's strategy was - presumably they were chasing growth and new customers, but I've never worked at a company that has paid for anything more than Jira and Confluence. I'm sure they have a whole list of other services but I've never personally known anyone to use them. Actually one company I was at did use Stride and it was truly awful - I don't know how its product manager thought it co…

I was using BitBucket for a while, to have paid access to private Mercurial repositories. Once they decided they no longer wanted to support Mercurial, and go with Git, I decided it was best to cut my losses and move to GitHub's paid plans. Atlassian has not handled offboarding of products very well.

No they haven't. BitBucket I'm guessing is their number 3 product?

I know Mercurial isn't overly popular but I thought it was wise to have a point of difference to the other offerings.

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