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Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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If that is the case, how did this government get a majority?

It did because that's exactly what people want, it's just that many people will tell you otherwise because they live in an information bubble and cannot believe that there exists voters outside of their bubble.

Same with opinions on HN. People here don't realize they're in a bubble and their opinions aren't representative for the masses. If you tell them that you get downvoted and flagged.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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You absolutely could go bare-metal with emerging local platforms and a Chinese stack — that’s the path Russia (and obviously China itself) is heading down. But... Equinix? US. Digital Realty? US. NTT? Japan. Interxion? US. CyrusOne? US. That’s your top five DC/colo operators in Europe. Same story with Tier-1 and Tier-1.5 ISPs. It’s not just software. It’s not even just hardware. It’s the whole stack — down to power g…

And that is not an excuse to do nothing. Much to the opposite, it should be an acknowledgement of risk, and that steps should be taken to have an infrastructure less dependent on foreign nations. Especially when they are hostile, such as the US right now.

Would the investor even outlive the investment though? Imagine building data centers in the UK — only to get Brexit halfway through.

Any long-term, shared investment relies on continuous, guaranteed political and economic unity. Today it’s the US that’s hostile — but how confident can you be that tomorrow it won’t be a PiS-led Poland, or even an AfD-led Germany?

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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I wonder why can't we have a fully open source e2ee that would be easy to use?

Matrix is getting there.

I keep hearing about Matrix (protocol) for a long time now.

Wikipedia says [0] it was started 10 years ago. I wonder what's the hold up?

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Matrix is getting there.

I keep hearing about Matrix (protocol) for a long time now. Wikipedia says [0] it was started 10 years ago. I wonder what's the hold up? [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)

I'm already using to to chat with my friends and family. The basic features are sufficiently polished IMHO.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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This is a great point where nationality does not reflect political values. Many Americans exist that do not carry the opinion of their government, as do many Russians. If a global set of "Don't be an asshole" values could be defined, put into words, shared and progressed, it would have much greater value to a consumer and the world than merely going back to nationalism and protectionism.

> If a global set of "Don't be an asshole" values could be defined, put into words, shared and progressed... Being a cynic, I expect the speeches to start with that then smoothly translate into "and therefore we have to spend more money on waging war in foreign countries". The US is exemplifying some of the best international values right now of trying to find a sharp end to all the meaningless dying we've been seein…

You mean rape, fraud, corruption, narcissim, tax the poor, cut social welfare, suck up to the agressor, anti-tolerance, etc?

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Fair enough. I suppose it is your decision to donate 1%. But would you like your president to make that decision for you? Would it be okay with it you if they asked you to sacrifice like 60% of your pay towards this cause, that too indefinitely?

It's a donation towards the greater good of Europe, so up to a certain amount I am absolutely for it. I have no say in taxation in the first place (well, indirectly through voting, but you know what I mean). 60% is excessive though, and would make it impossible for people to pay bills. That's detrimental for the future of Europe :)

Ok, now let us also take into account that as this conflict continue, the chance of a nuclear escalation goes up, day by day.

Would you still support to fund this and make this conflict go on and on, possibly until someone becomes so desperate that they do something stupid?

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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And that is not an excuse to do nothing. Much to the opposite, it should be an acknowledgement of risk, and that steps should be taken to have an infrastructure less dependent on foreign nations. Especially when they are hostile, such as the US right now.

Would the investor even outlive the investment though? Imagine building data centers in the UK — only to get Brexit halfway through. Any long-term, shared investment relies on continuous, guaranteed political and economic unity. Today it’s the US that’s hostile — but how confident can you be that tomorrow it won’t be a PiS-led Poland, or even an AfD-led Germany?

Every sort of investiment of any magnitude is subject to risk, and some of those are geopolitical in nature.

Is Europe less stable than other countries?

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Signal comes from the country where the Prism [1] is still functioning. While it has open source, NSA can request from deployers on any stage to inject surveillance functionality: request from Signal authors, from Android / Apple Store repository maintainers and probably many other actors on the deployment chain to my mobile phone. I could install it from sources but I do not have any guarantee my message sent to my…

I wonder why can't we have a fully open source e2ee that would be easy to use?

> I wonder why can't we have a fully open source e2ee that would be easy to use?

what would you say about simplex's UX? https://simplex.chat/docs/guide/readme.html

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Fair enough. I suppose it is your decision to donate 1%. But would you like your president to make that decision for you? Would it be okay with it you if they asked you to sacrifice like 60% of your pay towards this cause, that too indefinitely?

> But would you like your president to make that decision for you? Not without a discussion, of course, and I may disagree with the decision after the discussion, but on the whole I have been happy enough with the parliamentary systems where I have lived within Europe that I can say yes to this. What would upset me and concern me to no end would be if the premiere went rogue and made these decisions unilaterally whil…

So basically, I think at this point if you support this to go on, then you are really willing to face an all out war that possibly involves your country. So there is a real chance that you won't be able to limit how your pay will be affected. But things could get much worse if some country goes nuclear.

So what I am trying to say is that may be some people are acting from this point of view (which makes a lot of sense to me, if you are realistic), and is actually not unsympathetic to Ukraine.

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