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Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by sras-me » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:14 PM UTC

lpcvoid wrote: post #151

sras-me wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you are not from Ukraine, how much of your paycheck are you willing to sacrifice for the support for Ukraine, like indefinitely?

I am willing to give 1% indefinitely (that's how much I currently donate monthly) until Ukraine is a free nation.

Fair enough. I suppose it is your decision to donate 1%.

But would you like your president to make that decision for you? Would it be okay with it you if they asked you to sacrifice like 60% of your pay towards this cause, that too indefinitely?

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by lpcvoid » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:18 PM UTC

sras-me wrote: post #161

lpcvoid wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am willing to give 1% indefinitely (that's how much I currently donate monthly) until Ukraine is a free nation.

Fair enough. I suppose it is your decision to donate 1%. But would you like your president to make that decision for you? Would it be okay with it you if they asked you to sacrifice like 60% of your pay towards this cause, that too indefinitely?

It's a donation towards the greater good of Europe, so up to a certain amount I am absolutely for it. I have no say in taxation in the first place (well, indirectly through voting, but you know what I mean).

60% is excessive though, and would make it impossible for people to pay bills. That's detrimental for the future of Europe :)

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by devn0ll » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:20 PM UTC

dickiedyce wrote: post #4

Ah ha. Is this the start of MAIA - "Make America Irrelevant Again"? Do they really need the help? Seems like their about to do a great job on that already... ;-)

"Never interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake." -- Sun Tsu

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by zo1 » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:21 PM UTC

thegrim33 wrote: post #95

josefrichter wrote: post #46

Could we avoid politics on the tech scene? I think we're all better than that, and we know the tech scene thrives through collaboration, not isolationism.

It's up to us, the users, to flag the political content. It seems like we're losing the battle, there's more and more political stuff allowed on the front page every month. As it keeps increasing, people like me will give up on the site and go elsewhere, and then there's fewer users flagging political stuff, and it takes over. Either we nip it in the bud now or it's all downhill from here.

As much as I agree that this forum shouldn't turn political, it's hard to ignore the metaphorical war that is happening on the internet at the moment. It's a revolutionary war for people to take back the narrative that's been imposed on them by the (what I would argue) trans-national, powerful and unelected monarchs.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by tdiff » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:22 PM UTC

What is "european values", exactly? It seems to be used to mean something "good", as "democracy" nowadays.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by apwell23 » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:24 PM UTC

surgical_fire wrote: post #160

apwell23 wrote: post #143

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> Basically we did that already. You mean they were always capable of doing it but choose to fleece USA instead ? Ironically proving trump right.

Are you pretending that projecting power across the Atlantic was not something done by the US to protect its own interests? You think US kept bases in Europe out of goodness? I am not sure if you are naive or just plain dumb. To be frank, I love that the US decided to sacrifice its own power, forcing Europe to prop up its own defense industry instead of giving money to the US so it would strengthen itself first and f…

you are talking about something else now. I responded to "we did it already" . afaik europe is still heavily dependent on usa and nothing actually has changed.

can you stay on topic and not resort to personal insults.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by McDyver » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:25 PM UTC

apwell23 wrote: post #155

VerminOctopus1 wrote: post #55

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This is an incredibly childish take on geopolitics. It’s almost funny.

not as childish as 'we won't use your websites but we will use your military to protect ourselves'

Would you protect your family? Would you protect your friends?

Do they count on your protection and support (or you,on theirs)?

Do you tell them to just stop begging for your help and protection and ask what have they actually done for you?

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by simion314 » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:25 PM UTC

ssssvd wrote: post #123

simion314 wrote: post #58

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Yeah, you can't be a nazi in Europe, promoting political assasination and genocide has consequences there,

Worth noting that Europe is the only place where someone could have actually been a Nazi, historically speaking. Plenty of other countries managed to avoid both Nazism and sweeping free speech bans. And let’s not forget — the actual consequences for genocide were delivered by the Americans, Brits, and Russians, not by internal bans or laws.

> free speech bans.

Reminder for USAians that in USA free speech has limits and you can also get fined for your speech. USA decided that the public needs to be protected by boobs and Europeans decided that nazis cause much more damage then boobs.

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by q3k » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:25 PM UTC

benterix wrote: post #146

What is funny (or sad) is that this submission is now flagged. A list with very interesting tech entries (I had no idea Poland had an actual RAM/storage factory, not just distribution).

GoodRAM makes modules/drives but not the DRAM/NAND chips themselves.

They're still pretty good products, though - as the name suggests :).

Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values

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Post by zo1 » Thu, Mar 06, 2025, 12:27 PM UTC

ysofunny wrote: post #81

don't european values include Monarchy?

As a general rule, I find that the "left" is always guilty of every single thing they accuse the right of doing. They just don't phrase it that way and think that they can control the narrative forever. The narrative, unfortunately, is crumbling and people are waking up. The only way they can stop it is by silencing and downright banning social-media, because that's currently the main vehicle for un-approved opinions spreading.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_Eur...