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Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/commercial-tvs/ Samsung makes them larger than 77".

Mother of god, these things are cheap. The 98" model is only $2,600.

Yeah but it’s an LCD; those are all cheap right now as OLED has become the preferred choice for HDR content.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Mother of god, these things are cheap. The 98" model is only $2,600.

Yeah but it’s an LCD; those are all cheap right now as OLED has become the preferred choice for HDR content.

Still wild to me that you can buy 98 inches of screen for such a tiny amount. I remember my first flat screen, had to buy a commercial plasma as there weren't any consumer ones available. I think all-in it was on the order of $8,000 including an $800 OEM wall bracket. 40 inches. The Samsung is about 6 times as much screen of better picture for a third the price.

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I think you may actually be right but I always react with disgust and amazement at the concept of wanting ads that are “better” or “more useful”. To me, that fact that you’re making an unsolicited pitch to me to capture my money is an insult and assault on my attention. Even if it somehow happened to align with something I wanted, I then wouldn’t want it from that company.

Its generally not unsolicited though. Using free services that are ad supported implies the consent you will hear advertisements. The Jeep situation is weird in some ways - is the car cheaper because it's ad supported? What did the owners sign up for?

It’s more money for Jeep, and it looks like they can get away with it, because there are no alternatives for the buyers(?). I’d be surprised if that is in any way good/cheaper for the users.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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> The Netherlands is roughly the size of Maryland. How is this relevant in your mind? Do you imagine most Americans crossing entire states in their daily commute? Do you imagine people and goods do not cross European borders?

It is considerably easier for a country that would be equivalent to one of the smallest U.S. states to abandon their dependence on cars than it is a country 237 times larger. Furthermore, the further west you go in theU.S. the more spread out things get until you reach the west coast. To the east of where I live there is a highway that is 287 miles long and is almost devoid of any services whatsoever, no civilization…

> It is considerably easier for a country that would be equivalent to one of the smallest U.S. states to abandon their dependence on cars than it is a country 237 times larger.

I'm not sure it is. Have you visited the Netherlands? You don't walk or ride a push bike between cities there, any more than you do in the USA. Bicycles are the predominant form of transport because of how they design their suburbs. A car in suburban Holland isn't going to move any faster than a bicycle, and there nowhere to park. This is a deliberate design choice.

The population density of Utrecht (a major city in the Netherlands) is 1000 people / sq km. The population density of Annapolis (the capital of Marylands) is over 2000 people / sq km. If density is the reason Marylands should be less car centric than Holland.

> To the east of where I live there is a highway that is 287 miles long and is almost devoid of any services whatsoever, no civilization to speak of, not even a gas station. You can Google it, it is known as the "Loneliest Road in America".

Doesn't the word "lonely" give you a hint on why this is irrelevant? You aren't going to ride a push bike to pick up fuel for your tractor in the Netherlands either.

It's the USA's sprawling suburbs that weld you to your car's, not your cities or your rural expanses. It's true that's hard to change now. But there is no reason it had to be that way. Your suburbs could have been as compact as those in the Netherlands. The Netherlands made a conscious choice not to do it that way (they built free ways, decided they didn't like them, and turned them into canals [0]). I'm not sure how the USA arrived at their current arrangement but it wasn't because you "had to".

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/utrecht-restor...

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Well, AM and FM radio are plagued with ads, always were and always will be. As far as I can see this is just a replacement for the fact that nobody listens to radio in their car any more. There is an entire older generation that is used to ads being blasted in their cars. The visual assault is new though.

Interesting whatsboutism you have there.

Is it wrong though? Gen X here, everything we ever watched had ads in it or near it

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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>The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has. You mean the industry that famously went bankrupt in 2008 and had to be bailed out? Looking at the list of sectors[1], there are plenty of sectors that I think are more stable: Consumer staples, utilities, and healthcare. [1] https://www.sectorspdrs.com/sectortracker

The fact that it was bailed out says something about its place in American society. Stable might not be the best description but it does seem to be one thing which is taken for granted.

> it’s cultural first class because it’s so stable

> it’s so stable because it’s a cultural first class

Looks biased from an outsider view but I guess most cultural habits gets biased at some point.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

That shouldn't be patentable...

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Some people might prefer an ad which is relevant to their location over something extremely generic and less useful. Sharing location does not necessarily need to impact privacy.

I don’t want ANY ads.

You have that right: just don't use any ad supported services.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Advertising is absolutely the root of so many of our problems. It's turned news into ragebait political bubble machines. It's why we have an epidemic of screen addiction and social isolation. They spy on us and sell our weaknesses to the highest bidder. Drug companies literally spend more on advertising than actually developing drugs. Billboards clutter up the landscapes and digital ads litter all our screens.

It is a blight on humanity and future generations are going to look back on us with the deepest pity on how we voluntarily did this to ourselves just to not pay for anything (directly).

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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If you can keep it on the road. I have a 25 year old car too. I spend more on maintenance than fuel (I only drove it 2000 miles last year) Parts are getting hard to find. There is rust that would be expensive to fix.

I have one that's a little over twice that age. Parts availability, especially in the aftermarket, is still very high for domestic classics, especially those based on the stereotypical design, and I doubt that will change much in the near future.

At twice the age you are pre-computer. In the worst case a metal lathe can make any part (though some of them are very tricky to make). If a computer dies on mine I have no ability to make a new one and odds are the chips haven't been made in 10+ years so good luck finding a replacement (getting software to program will also be hard)

Though none of the parts I've had to replace are computer related. Mechanical parts are much more likely to wear out or rust.

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