It’s so iconic that they have a cookie banner covering 60% of my phone screen.
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Buy European Made. Support European Values
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Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
#42What kind of values? Hypocrisy at scale?
Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
#43Keep supporting the values of freedom, democracy, self-determination.
These are not national or cultural preserves.
There are plenty of fascists and mean-minded frightened little people here in Europe, just as the body of US America remains founded on liberty.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Not every european company embodies european values. What even are "European values"? Is there such thing? Every EU country I know has varying values to the other members, that's why we have separate borders, languages, religions, cultures and laws with autonomy over them. The EU is not one-nation one-culture like the US, but an org that doesn't impose any kind of universal values across the different diverse member…
While every country has its own culture and values, the European union is founded, at least theoretically, on some shared values such as promoting peace, democracy (...) Well, one might say that we sell weapons to dictatorships (and they would be correct), but at least on paper there are some shared values we more or less share throughout European union. Full list here: https://european-union.europa.eu/principles-cou…
Promoting peace and democracy? By arresting politicians opposed to them and funding and supporting wars?
Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
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> maybe they can adopt "stop begging USA for military protection" as their value first.
Basically we did that already. But the preferred wording is "Don't rely on the USA because they are no longer trustworty."
Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
#46Could we avoid politics on the tech scene? I think we're all better than that, and we know the tech scene thrives through collaboration, not isolationism.
Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
#47Sure, but its turtles all the way down. How many are hosted on AWS, Google or Microsoft? How many are using Windows or macOS? How many use nvidia, etc.
Absence of a (high-level services) cloud provider is a big problem. I hope that changes at some point, but probably impossible to start something like that without measures in place to make the existing offering less attractive.
Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
#48Why add "Support European Values" to the title when I can't find it anywhere on the page? Pointless inclusion for something with quite the potential for polemics... EDIT: whoops, either I'm blind or some JS blocking hid it from my eyes...
Is this polemic? Seem more like it is a choice people can make, same as American freedom fries.
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#49Re: Buy European Made. Support European Values
#50Sure, but its turtles all the way down. How many are hosted on AWS, Google or Microsoft? How many are using Windows or macOS? How many use nvidia, etc.
There's a size point at which rolling your own infrastructure is worth it, and may get government support. Help grow companies you want to see succeed.
"Don't rent from Amazon! Buy from Dell, HP, SuperMicro, Cisco, Juniper, Intel and Nvidia instead."
It's all American below AWS/GCP abstractions as well.