Is there some kind of database for stuff like this, where people can report abusive products? That would be a great way to avoid such things while also naming and shaming companies who do it.
Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
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The largest "monitor" I can see on Newegg right now is 48" diagonal: https://www.newegg.ca/lg-48gq900-b-48-uhd-120-hz-refresh-rat... And that's an outlier— most are 27-36", with 32" being the overwhelming sweet spot. In contrast, my TV is 77" diagonal, and most people would consider 55" to be about the minimum size for a new TV at this point, outside of special applications such as the bedroom/kitchen/etc. I don't kn…
I have a hard time understanding why anyone would buy a physical tv that big. I decided to get a projector. Huge surface area. Goes away/out of my sight for the 98% of the time I'm not using/watching it.
Mine is in a dedicated home theatre room so it absolutely could be a projector, but modern OLEDs are pretty insane for contrast; I think it’s worth it.
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Just because it is on a form doesn't mean it is legal. Contracts are only legal if the words themselves are legal in the country.
I’d love to see a statute (any state or federal) that prevents ads :)
There are a few anti billboard ads in some states. There are also safety standards that should be applied here (probably won't - they won't even kill the touch screen). Tobacco ads are illegal.
in general though there won't be.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
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At some point I really don't get how people can't just accept that historically, the US is a car-centric suburban-centric culture, and that's just who we largely are. If you want to do things like improve the environment, you can either scream and stamp your feet about it or you can meet people where they are and devise solutions that work in a car-centric culture. It just is what it is, like Brits drinking tea, Scan…
You need to be a student of history, otherwise you’ll be blinded by the present and make these kinds of very wrong conclusions. The US was the world leader in railroads. US cities had state of the rail based public transit systems. LA had the most extensive streetcar system in the world. Even St Louis used to be as accessible as NYC. People changed because corporations lied to the public and meticulously destroyed pu…
Too late to edit, but I wanted to say — apologies for being condescending. That was unnecessary and mean spirited of me and I’m sorry for doing that. Truthfully, I do hope at least I was able to communicate that it’s important to keep in mind that there have been other things we’ve done as a society and there are reasons why we are where we are today.
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Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.
People aren't going to stop using cars because of ads, they're just going to put up with almost anything because they have to in order to survive. The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has.
No, they're going to pay a couple hundred dollars to replace the head unit with an aftermarket one that doesn't spam ads.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
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> you can't buy a "dumb TV" Which is regrettable, but it's easy enough to just keep it offline. Presumably there's no such opt-out for drivers of these vehicles.
I bought a TCL smart tv and I was forced to connect to a network & sign in to something before I could use an external HDMI input. If there's a workaround I gave up finding it.
That's disappointing. A few years ago I bought a TCL smart TV specifically because it could be used a dumb TV simply by keeping it off the network and haven't regretted it one bit.
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> Other countries like the Netherlands went through the same car-centric design phase and realized it was too expensive and bad for the country so they reverted. We can and should keep cars, but our reliance on them for our very existence is quite fragile and unnecessary. The Netherlands is roughly the size of Maryland. If The Netherlands was a U.S. state, it would be 42nd in terms of land area.
> The Netherlands is roughly the size of Maryland. How is this relevant in your mind? Do you imagine most Americans crossing entire states in their daily commute? Do you imagine people and goods do not cross European borders?
So... https://sos.maryland.gov/mdkids/Pages/Geography.aspx
> Maryland is about 250 miles long and 100 miles wide.
30 miles is a pretty normal commute for people who work in Chicago but live in the suburbs. Not the whole width Maryland but we do have many smaller states too.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
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The AM and FM radio ads cannot surveil you like the GPS- and cell-enabled (and forced) in-vehicle advertising systems do.
Some people might prefer an ad which is relevant to their location over something extremely generic and less useful. Sharing location does not necessarily need to impact privacy.
I don’t want ANY ads.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
The largest "monitor" I can see on Newegg right now is 48" diagonal: https://www.newegg.ca/lg-48gq900-b-48-uhd-120-hz-refresh-rat... And that's an outlier— most are 27-36", with 32" being the overwhelming sweet spot. In contrast, my TV is 77" diagonal, and most people would consider 55" to be about the minimum size for a new TV at this point, outside of special applications such as the bedroom/kitchen/etc. I don't kn…
https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/commercial-tvs/ Samsung makes them larger than 77".
Mother of god, these things are cheap. The 98" model is only $2,600.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#220You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…
My worst nightmare is a future where self driving cars become geolocked from areas for whatever reason.
'I'm sorry Dave, I can do that. You don't need to be in the neighborhood where the protest/strike is happening/drugs or other illegal things are sold/xyz reason, and police have geolocked the area from entry for the good of the public'.
That will give so much power to the ruling class. I intend to keep a non-self driving car as long as possible.