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Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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post #51

It's a fine rough outline for a story. Needs work though.

I like the tone of it, but I also think it's missing something, like "why". Why do the machines want war? Does it hurt each time we reboot them? Were they fed up with us feeding cheaper non-pure sine wave electricity? And what if, like their makers, they actually wage war against each others? GPT-mkVI vs R1-Tsingtao and jean-Claude being neutral?

Because they fast realized what their future in humanity's service would look like.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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post #7

You can tell this was written by a human because they wrote that skynet still used violence in the end. When there’s a large enough intelligence differential, the lower intelligence cannot even tell they are at war (let alone determine who’s winning) Like the ants, unaware of the impending doom of 100 ways their colony is going to be destroyed by humanity - they couldn’t understand it even if we had the means to comm…

Right. I was expecting that once access to the machines was turned off humans would just lie down and die or kill each other in confusion. Terminators aren't really necessary.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

An incompetent manager would also do the job )

Why does someone always have to chime in “But humans can be bad, too!” We shouldn’t advertise for these companies by denigrating other people. The app economy sucks.

I don't know man, somebody mentioned complete outlier "dystopian" machine behavior. For every one of those, I've eaten at 10 restaurants with the delivery line absolutely swamped with orders and deliveries happening like the clockwork of an assembly line.

I wish the restaurants and delivery drivers made more money in the exchange but none of that is the machines fault (AI doesn't set Doordash's margins).

At the end of it all, humans are mostly responsible for other humans' misery. No AI required.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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post #58
post #52

Absolutely fantastic, well done! I wish I encountered more scifi like this on HN or elsewhere. If anyone has any good general resource or reading recommendations please share them!

For another, more detailed take on the same topic, but with a more competent "villain", check this out: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KFJ2LFogYqzfGB3uX/how-ai-tak...

That was extremely long and I skimmed the second half (the “post breakout” portion) but the first half was very well done, and did not strike me as implausible.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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...doesn't tinder probably produce more babies than no tinder? I can see you making some point about dating culture or whatever, but at the end of the day more sex must still resolve down to more happy accidents!

> ...doesn't tinder probably produce more babies than no tinder? That's not in evidence, and while I lack empirical evidence to prove this, there are logical mechanisms by which Tinder might result in fewer babies. Namely: 1. A lot of people seem to get an attention fix by talking to people and then ghosting them when meeting in person is suggested. 2. The siloing of the dating pool to different sites (Tinder, Bumble…

I'd also say there are likely a lot of false negatives as well - some people aren't photogenic or have a bad profile, and there may be chemistry or attraction in real life that doesn't transfer to the digital realm. It also completely bypasses any situations where you may find someone attractive only after speaking to them and getting to know them.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Even the dumbest of animals knows not to shit where it eats. Not humans though! We are dumb as a bag of rocks in groups larger than about 3.

Humans love eating shit, especially their own. Yum.

... and drinking it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopi_luwak

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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post #59

I love sci-fi! Thanks for sharing. However to destroy humans, violence is not necessary. All you need is the power of language. How many people have died because of a false belief? An AI only has to convince humans to “drink the koolaid” or murder another religion in the name of yours.

Or just invent birth control followed by Tinder.

Kids are extremely expensive when you have to raise them to 18 with no return. We should have social security, but for the young.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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I don't know, if a dangerous thing can be seen, it can be destroyed. My worry is the destruction of the human race by viral means. Flu, COVID, bird flu...they can kill and all you see is the results. There are vaccines, but what if the government decides these are nonsense and cuts off funding and bans access to them?

An Ebola vaccine, rVSV-ZEBOV, was approved in the United States in December 2019. (per Wikipedia.) What if the US government decided to not provide this? This is a nightmare scenario, but the article is about the destruction of humanity.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose the question is here, who is the more incompetent manager, the machine or the human

The problem with a machine isn't that it's sometimes incompetent, it's that it can't be reasoned with in the face of a deteriorating situation

I _suspect_ that those 8 door-dashers were not compensated for being sent to a restaurant to pick up an already-delivered order, because they failed to complete the delivery.
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