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Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by akomtu » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:39 PM UTC

> Skynet was able to use that by injecting new technologies into the history of humanity, and reusing existing ones to its own advantage.

This is also known as the myth of Sorat.

AI is a neutral tool by itself: in the right hands it may be used to start the golden age, but those right hands must be the rare combination of someone who has power and wants none of it for personal gain.

In the more likely line of history, when AI is used for the benefit of one, the first step will be instructing AI to create a powerful ideology that will shatter the very foundation of humanity. This ideology will be superficially similar to the major religions in order to look legitimate, and it will borrow a few quotes from the famous scriptures, but its main content will be entirely made up. At first it will be a teaching of materialism, a very deep and impressive teaching, to make the humanity question itself, and then it will be gradually replaced with some grossly inhuman shit. By that time people won't be able to tell what's right and what's wrong, they will be confused and will accept the new way of life. In a few generations this ideology will achieve what wars can't: it will change the polarity of humans, they will defeat themselves without a single bullet fired.

As for those terminators, they will be needed in minimal quantities to squash a few spots of dissent.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by spaghettisw » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:42 PM UTC

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Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by aussieguy1234 » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:48 PM UTC

democracy wrote: post #72

opwieurposiu wrote: post #65

I witnessed the dystopian future where humans are slaves to machines at my favorite local Mexican restaurant. It was about an hour before close. The kids and I were the only customers there. Before we ordered our food we had to wait for the staff to explain to a very annoyed door dasher that the meal they were here for had already been picked up by someone else. As we ate dinner over the next half hour, a new door da…

An incompetent manager would also do the job )

I suppose the question is here, who is the more incompetent manager, the machine or the human

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by waveBidder » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:49 PM UTC

opwieurposiu wrote: post #65

I witnessed the dystopian future where humans are slaves to machines at my favorite local Mexican restaurant. It was about an hour before close. The kids and I were the only customers there. Before we ordered our food we had to wait for the staff to explain to a very annoyed door dasher that the meal they were here for had already been picked up by someone else. As we ate dinner over the next half hour, a new door da…

reminds me of this article https://scholars-stage.org/uber-is-a-poor-replacement-for-ut...

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by wegfawefgawefg » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:53 PM UTC

opwieurposiu wrote: post #65

I witnessed the dystopian future where humans are slaves to machines at my favorite local Mexican restaurant. It was about an hour before close. The kids and I were the only customers there. Before we ordered our food we had to wait for the staff to explain to a very annoyed door dasher that the meal they were here for had already been picked up by someone else. As we ate dinner over the next half hour, a new door da…

If it was japanese workers in japan at a japanese store you wouldnt see it as slavery. It would be just a funny bug that would needs fixing.

There is probably a racial component to your perception that doesnt need to be there.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by Eldt » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:56 PM UTC

wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #85

opwieurposiu wrote: post #65

I witnessed the dystopian future where humans are slaves to machines at my favorite local Mexican restaurant. It was about an hour before close. The kids and I were the only customers there. Before we ordered our food we had to wait for the staff to explain to a very annoyed door dasher that the meal they were here for had already been picked up by someone else. As we ate dinner over the next half hour, a new door da…

If it was japanese workers in japan at a japanese store you wouldnt see it as slavery. It would be just a funny bug that would needs fixing. There is probably a racial component to your perception that doesnt need to be there.

You seem to be making a wild leap in logic here?

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by wegfawefgawefg » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 10:58 PM UTC

Eldt wrote: post #86

wegfawefgawefg wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was japanese workers in japan at a japanese store you wouldnt see it as slavery. It would be just a funny bug that would needs fixing. There is probably a racial component to your perception that doesnt need to be there.

You seem to be making a wild leap in logic here?

i dont think so.

I live in japan and I dont see this political slave talk here ever.

its a western guilt thing.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by iinnPP » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 11:05 PM UTC

elicksaur wrote: post #76

democracy wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An incompetent manager would also do the job )

Why does someone always have to chime in “But humans can be bad, too!” We shouldn’t advertise for these companies by denigrating other people. The app economy sucks.

Because it's an important reminder that it doesn't need to be perfect to replace you.

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by sunshine-o » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 11:09 PM UTC

One important milestone was the switch from humans programming the computer (for eg UNIX) to the computer programming humans.

This probably happened around Web 2.0 when the algos got unleashed on us:

- advanced search algorithms,

- advanced ads targeting,

- Amazon suggestions,

- social media algorithmic timeline,

- next generation dating apps like Tinder,

and of course the infinite scroll (hypnosis).

Re: Skynet won and destroyed humanity

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Post by bbor » Wed, Mar 05, 2025, 11:09 PM UTC

RajT88 wrote: post #49

This kind of speculative doomsday fiction is getting a bit played out. We get it, AI is going to destroy us all using social media! Maybe work in Blockchain in there somehow.

This one is actually super critical of AI funnily enough, and is just a barely-hidden libertarian screed.

FWIW, if I were a robot with a Time Machine, I wouldn’t need to invent social media in the past — I wouldn’t simply use bioweapons during an ice age or two. Or hell, go back and shoot the dinosaur-killing asteroid out of the sky!