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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by cafard »

kccqzy wrote: post #39
ericmay wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside.

Some states sharply restrict roadside advertising--Maryland does, Pennsylvania doesn't.

The bus advertising business seemed to have taken a beating a few years back. It is true that in Washington the bus shelters have ads, often electronic.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by LinuxBender »

motohagiography wrote: post #87

we are in a cultural nadir of car design. vindicating that I bought a jeep with stick, rolldown windows, no bluetooth, no infotainment, no electric locks. guess I'm about to become a vintage car collector.

guess I'm about to become a vintage car collector.

Same. My truck is already a classic. People ask if I really love that truck and then I explain the de-evolution that is taking place in modern vehicles. When that truck fails and if I can't find anything I will happily ride into town on my 1947 tractor or a horse or my old side-by-side.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by bluGill »

karaterobot wrote: post #13
ypeterholmes wrote: post #2

Advertising has gotten out of control. What's bizarre to me is that the people violating us are literally the ones who want something from us. Is there no way to boycott anyone advertising in our car? AND the car itself of course.

I didn't buy a Jeep because of stuff like this. The problem is that when I looked at the competitors, for instance the Bronco, they had their own little UI annoyances too. There wasn't anything on the market that didn't annoy or insult me in one way or another, so I ended up just buying a 25 year old Ranger. The irony is that 25 years ago, I had a Ranger like the one I own now, and it took me a series of seven modern…

If you can keep it on the road. I have a 25 year old car too. I spend more on maintenance than fuel (I only drove it 2000 miles last year) Parts are getting hard to find. There is rust that would be expensive to fix.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by SJC_Hacker »

ericmay wrote: post #31
spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.

I think its more than just a "few selection locations". Its the majority of major metropolitan areas.

Especially with Uber, Doordash, Instacart, etc. Having a car is almost a liability in many instances.

Now I agree this gets to be a dodgy proposition if you have kids, and the further out you are from major pop centers. Suburbs maybe, rural areas are definitely out.

I did for many years and definitely contributed to the economy

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Post by gruez »

drpossum wrote: post #49
vondur wrote: post #37

Ha, maybe they will reduce the price of the vehicles if the owner agrees to ads? Much like the Amazon Kindle with the ad supported versions.

DO NOT GIVE THEM IDEAS

Honestly this would be an improvement over the status quo. You get a choice in the matter, and unlike it being sprung on you after you bought it, you presumably would know upfront.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by adamtaylor_13 »

thesuitonym wrote: post #35
spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

I know this wasn't your point, but Sceptre still makes dumb TVs. The real problem is finding anything to watch without ads. Hulu has already changed their terms of service to say you might still get some ads on the "ad free" tier.

As soon as that happens, I drop them. There’s no reality in which I pay someone money to watch ads. Absolutely not.

I suppose it will be a bigger deal for folks who really enjoy TV and don’t want to miss it. But man… I can’t help but think of how much better myself and my family will be if they push me over that edge.

FAFO, Hulu, FAFO.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by spanktheuser »

elzbardico wrote: post #25

Find out the addresses of Jeep Executives. Get a car with giant loudspeakers and outdoor projectors and display ads at their houses 24/7.

Michael Moore did something very close to this in the mid-90s for his briefly-lived TV Nation. Parked a series of cars in front of the home of a car alarm company CEO and set them off.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by ziddoap »

gruez wrote: post #102
striking wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but at least buses and trains are accountable to the voter in one way or another... and I can still wear headphones.

You can vote with your wallet and buy a car that doesn't have ads. The best you can do with ads on buses and trains is show up in your next city council meeting and raise a stink, only to be told that the transit agency signed a 10 year contract and can't pull out.

This assumes that no other manufacturer will put ads in their cars. Hopefully that's the case!

I think the concern is that once/if a critical mass of manufacturers include in-car ads, the rest can follow (because people still need vehicles in most areas), and the consumer has no more choice.

Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads

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Post by npongratz »

spudlyo wrote: post #6

You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…

> This is some Black Mirror type dystopian vision of the future for me.

Indeed. I always assumed this was the impetus for FSD: these vehicles confine the most captive audience, so they will be a surveillance/advertising gold mine.

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