This seems like something a car company would do if it were hurtling towards bankruptcy for the third time in a human lifetime.
And lo, that's exactly what Jeep's parent company, Stellantis, is doing.
Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
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Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you can't buy a "dumb TV" They are sold as monitors and digital signage displays and cost a lot more than a consumer TV.
The largest "monitor" I can see on Newegg right now is 48" diagonal: https://www.newegg.ca/lg-48gq900-b-48-uhd-120-hz-refresh-rat... And that's an outlier— most are 27-36", with 32" being the overwhelming sweet spot. In contrast, my TV is 77" diagonal, and most people would consider 55" to be about the minimum size for a new TV at this point, outside of special applications such as the bedroom/kitchen/etc. I don't kn…
https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/commercial-tvs/
Samsung makes them larger than 77".
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#83You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…
> Just like nowadays you can't buy a "dumb TV" You can, if you buy used. I know it's weird to buy a used TV, but they cost pennies on the dollar and you can get some really nice models without today's ubiquitous annoyances. Same goes for cars. If enough people refrain from buying new cars, and put in the effort to keep their older cars on the road, maybe manufacturers will take the hint.
For how long? Used TVs don't last forever.
I just bought a new car (well 3 years old) because the transmission was going on the old one and at 240k miles the cost to fix it was more than the car was worth. Even if I had fixed it, the body was already showing signs of rust. (the new one is also a plug in hybrid which I believe over 10 years will save the difference between fixing the old one and this one - but only time will tell)
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#84You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…
Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.
People aren't going to stop using cars because of ads, they're just going to put up with almost anything because they have to in order to survive.
The car industry is probably one of the most stable economic pillars the US has.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or just modify them. People used to replace their stereo, I suspect there would be a real market for add free infotainment systems.
This is already difficult on 20 year old vehicles, in the future it might be impossible. The combination of weird speaker ohm specs, CAN Bus controlled factory amplifiers, integrated vehicle information systems (where the display is across several screens) in modern cars and the abandonment of the DIN stereo size make doing aftermarket installs harder and harder. The Chinese are producing some astounding things - you…
This is already a huge issue - I actually had to pay attention to CarPlay integration because most cars the infotainment system is tied to the car itself (and not just the steering wheel controls), and you need it. Many of the car's settings can't be changed anywhere but on the "radio".
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.
That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside.
Yeah, but at least buses and trains are accountable to the voter in one way or another... and I can still wear headphones.
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#87we are in a cultural nadir of car design. vindicating that I bought a jeep with stick, rolldown windows, no bluetooth, no infotainment, no electric locks.
guess I'm about to become a vintage car collector.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#88I had a similar experience with a used Ford car I bought from CarMax trying to shove SiriusXM down my throat like please man.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Car-only infrastructure which is pervasive in America is a liability to the country and the economy. I can just not buy a TV and my life is great. Probably better. I can't not buy a car except in a few select locations if I want to participate in the economy. That's both dangerous and fragile.
That has little to do with advertising though. When you drive, you still see billboards with advertising. When you take public transit, the buses and the trains can have ads inside and outside.
This sort of misses the point, and treats all advertisement as equally annoying.
Advertisements inside my car, especially if the begin to use my speakers, is infinitely more annoying than a billboard (which, yes, is also annoying).
Advertisements on trains/etc. are more annoying than billboards, but less annoying than advertisements in something I am supposed to own.
Re: Jeep owners fed up with in-car pop-up ads
#90You wouldn't run an ad blocker on your car... > But the problem could presage a more significant issue for future drivers. Last year, Ford filed a patent for an in-car advertising system that would use the car’s speakers and display screen to serve ads to drivers and passengers. That system would also use the car’s GPS tracker to serve ads relevant to the driver’s route. This is some Black Mirror type dystopian visio…
I like driving sporty/sports cars and I'm not getting new stuff, so works out for me. I don't mind driving a 10+yr older car.
I don't disagree it's an ahole move
"why are we getting off at this exit? there is a sale nearby..."