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Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by yusaythat »

1123581321 wrote: post #21
sergers wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being canadian, you just described different styles of pancakes that we just call all pancakes. Thin, thick, size of a plate, sand dollar size, size of your hands... just all called simply pancakes. I find the thick ones not good. Theres a chain of big pancakes size of plate restaurants called dedutch pannekoek house, or just dedutch.

Do Canadians not call the Scandinavian crepe style Swedish pancakes? That’s the common term in the US regardless of size and fold.

This is not a common term in the US.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by AntoniusBlock »

consumer451 wrote: post #56
beefnugs wrote: post #55

Sadly, the jokes on them, the US will pull back from anywhere near russia to allow them to expand as they see fit, and just park as close to isreal to help them level the region

That ship already sailed. Do you see Trump’s USA upholding their NATO obligations to defend other nations? The only thing that US bases in the EU are doing at the moment is contributing to the local economies. Expecting anything more is magical thinking.

>The only thing that US bases in the EU are doing at the moment is contributing to the local economies.

Some US bases double as spy bases. For example in the UK, RAF Menwith Hill is an NSA spy base, and RAF Croughton is a CIA spy base. One bargaining chip Europe has is to oust these spy bases from their territory. This would obviously negatively impact the US' global intelligence efforts. In any case, I see little point in allowing a hostile nation have spy bases on one's land.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by anon91933 »

jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #44
marbro wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't it be horrible if Europe defended itself without help from the United States?

Considering how many weapons the US sells to its allies, wouldn't be great for the US defense industry.

Europe has its own industry, but countries have made sure that they buy a significant amount of weapons from the US to keep them happy. That limits the size of the EU industry.

There have been many stories of EU countries choosing the American alternative, even if it was more expensive. In return, they expected some goodwill from US.

So when you read stories about EU countries not spending enough, consider that a large part of what they do spend goes to the US to appease them.

Now, US is changing the expectations

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by anon91933 »

beebaween wrote: post #2

Wonder how making the US your enemy is going to pan out lmao

This was a private company, not the state of Norway. A democratic country can't force companies to trade.

Please keep in mind that actions of a single company has no effect on the rest of the country. Why does everything have to be blown out of proportions?

Norway's defense minister has made it clear that they support the US presence, and this was the actions of a single company. The ship was given what they asked for.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by CogitoCogito »

ETH_start wrote: post #57
dingle_thunk wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, the US is making the mistake of believing their own fake numbers.

The U.S. makes up most NATO spending.

I'm pretty sure no NATO countries actually consider the US a dependable ally at the moment. So US spending is kind of irrelevant really. And if the US were to actively work against its NATO allies (seems pretty likely at this point), US NATO spending would be considered more of a negative rather than a positive.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by 1123581321 »

yusaythat wrote: post #61
1123581321 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do Canadians not call the Scandinavian crepe style Swedish pancakes? That’s the common term in the US regardless of size and fold.

This is not a common term in the US.

Yes it is. You’ll find it on breakfast menus in every part of the country, if they make them. There are variations though. What do you call them?

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by usefulcat »

netsharc wrote: post #26
duxup wrote: post #10

Trump administration is weakening the US in ways and with speed that our enemies could never accomplish.

Xi Jinping must be pleased, he can call countries around the world and be treated as the sane, reasonable superpower... (And he's got the superpower-wannabe Putin on a leash, and to continue the dog metaphor, Putin in turn has Trump licking his balls)

Exactly. Trump has gifted the Chinese a golden opportunity to really step up in a diplomatic, international sense. Even if not all nations agree with everything China does, they at least look like sane, competent adults compared to the shitshow that is the current US government.

And even if we were to get a sane government in 2028 it wouldn’t matter much because Americans have already demonstrated not once, but twice that they will willingly elect an utterly incompetent fool.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Post by yusaythat »

1123581321 wrote: post #68
yusaythat wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not a common term in the US.

Yes it is. You’ll find it on breakfast menus in every part of the country, if they make them. There are variations though. What do you call them?

Well I'm 40 and lived all over the country and I've never heard it a single time. You sure you don't live in an alternate timeline? Also just to make sure I'm not crazy I looked at iHop's online menu and it's... just pancakes. Never heard anyone call a pancake anything other than a pancake.
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