Wonder how making the US your enemy is going to pan out lmao
Kaliningrad isn’t that far. Try there…
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#33Go norway!
As much as I'm behind Norway in this little spat, I think Putin's Arctic fleet might smell an opportunity to mess with Norway a bit more, and then who will they beg for help?
Not sure if you follow the news, but the US aren't considered as allies (or dependable, or even stable) by anyone right now. Nobody is happy about it, of course, but it's not like anyone is counting on the US anymore, for better or worse.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Refusal of business is not harm. But telling someone to “use their brain” is tantamount to calling them an idiot
TBF, my initial reply was not particularly charitable or steel-manning.
However I do believe that US international policy and procurement ought to operate without bias around whether potential vendor's CEO has praised/insulted a US President.
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#35Speaking as an non-american reading local & global news sources....
...does Trump not understand 2nd round effects ?
From afar he seems to be intent on Making America Great for Billionaires at the expense of any country less powerful than the US.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, America will support Putin currently. If Putin attacks Norway, America will bully Norway.
That won't happen because of Norway's immense oil and gas supply and good relations. If Russia manages to take Norway, USA will be at an incredible disadvantage due to the immense oil and gas reserves on the coastline in addition to the oil-fund. If anything USA will annex Norway.
Incomplete list of places USA bully, attacks or insults: Canada, EU, Ukraine, Mexico.
Complete list of countries USA supports, admires and treats nicely: Russia.
If Russia attack Norway, USA may try to make Norway a colony. Or use to situation to mock Norway, get their oil and then sell them to Russia once they have something.
But Trump loves Putin and is scared of him, so I can see him to make a "deal" and give him Norway with its oil in exchange of something purely ego stroking.
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#37Speaking as an non-american reading local & global news sources.... ...does Trump not understand 2nd round effects ? From afar he seems to be intent on Making America Great for Billionaires at the expense of any country less powerful than the US.
I already read article about how Trumps people are fuming at Zelensky as the cause of Vance and Trump hysterical meltdown
So, no, Trump does not understand that. He is protected from that.
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#38Wonder how making the US your enemy is going to pan out lmao
Okay let's take a deep breath and read slowly: - Russia attacked Ukraine - The US is making enemies out of ex allies Not the other way around. It seems difficult to understand for americans, for some reason, but the order of the words does matter.
It is only hard to understand for a minority of Americans.
Many of the things Trump is doing right now are unpopular even among people that voted for him.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
As much as I'm behind Norway in this little spat, I think Putin's Arctic fleet might smell an opportunity to mess with Norway a bit more, and then who will they beg for help?
Not sure if you follow the news, but the US aren't considered as allies (or dependable, or even stable) by anyone right now. Nobody is happy about it, of course, but it's not like anyone is counting on the US anymore, for better or worse.
Wouldn't it be horrible if Europe defended itself without help from the United States?
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#40Trump administration is weakening the US in ways and with speed that our enemies could never accomplish.
It doesn't matter if Trump is actually a conspiratorial russian asset/agent.
The policies of the Trump administration are completely in line with him being one, and it is those actions that are the damage. To review a bit:
- trade and tariff wars with near neighbors and allies
- threatening to steal territory from allies
- parroting openly false propaganda by Putin in the world media
- disrupting the Five Eyes
- mass firings at FBI, CIA, DIA, NSA
- open support of right wing fascist parties in European elections
- withdrawing aid from Ukraine
- threatening Starlink access by Ukraine
Of course he's now stating that the sactions will be ending soon as well.
Honestly, this is actually MORE than I would expect from an agent, because I would assume the KGB or GRU or equivalents would have slow-played him for long term effect.