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Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Not sure if you follow the news, but the US aren't considered as allies (or dependable, or even stable) by anyone right now. Nobody is happy about it, of course, but it's not like anyone is counting on the US anymore, for better or worse.

Wouldn't it be horrible if Europe defended itself without help from the United States?

Wouldn’t it be horrible if the United States were a dependable ally?

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Okay let's take a deep breath and read slowly: - Russia attacked Ukraine - The US is making enemies out of ex allies Not the other way around. It seems difficult to understand for americans, for some reason, but the order of the words does matter.

It is only hard to understand for a minority of Americans. Many of the things Trump is doing right now are unpopular even among people that voted for him.

If only they’d had any way to know what Trump is actually like.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Not sure if you follow the news, but the US aren't considered as allies (or dependable, or even stable) by anyone right now. Nobody is happy about it, of course, but it's not like anyone is counting on the US anymore, for better or worse.

Wouldn't it be horrible if Europe defended itself without help from the United States?

It would be worse for the United States dollar, probably. The D in USD historically could’ve been associated with “Diplomacy”— the military was willing and able to globally enforce the value of the US Dollar by favoring countries that willingly supported its hegemony.

When no one relies upon us any more, what makes our dollars and debts so special? What’s to stop everyone from taking their ball and going to play somewhere else? From calling in debts, from reneging on debts to us, from accepting our dollars, from providing land for military bases, from honoring our passports… because that is what happens to nearly every other country not at the Top.

The global order currently only works in our favor because we’re on top. We are the ones who lose the most when other countries don’t need us, not the other way around.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Not sure if you follow the news, but the US aren't considered as allies (or dependable, or even stable) by anyone right now. Nobody is happy about it, of course, but it's not like anyone is counting on the US anymore, for better or worse.

Wouldn't it be horrible if Europe defended itself without help from the United States?

Considering how many weapons the US sells to its allies, wouldn't be great for the US defense industry.

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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Wonder how making the US your enemy is going to pan out lmao

The US is treating its enemies better than its friends right now

It’s because for all intents and purposes they have completely switched teams. The US is currently pro fascism

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Were they American pancakes before? Serious question, I just call pancakes, pancakes….

Ah right, I guess that name for them is Norwegian/European. Around here, "American pancakes" are about 1 cm (1/2 inch) thick and the size of a hand. Contains baking soda "Pancakes" are larger, the size of a plate, and much thinner (a couple of mm). No baking soda. Like the French crepe but smaller diameter. They taste quite differently.

Those large pancakes sound like Belgian crepes.

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That won't happen because of Norway's immense oil and gas supply and good relations. If Russia manages to take Norway, USA will be at an incredible disadvantage due to the immense oil and gas reserves on the coastline in addition to the oil-fund. If anything USA will annex Norway.

Incomplete list of places USA bully, attacks or insults: Canada, EU, Ukraine, Mexico. Complete list of countries USA supports, admires and treats nicely: Russia. If Russia attack Norway, USA may try to make Norway a colony. Or use to situation to mock Norway, get their oil and then sell them to Russia once they have something. But Trump loves Putin and is scared of him, so I can see him to make a "deal" and give him…

The oil lasts longer than Trump's presidency so hopefully the US will not become a dictatorship within that time and will be able to fix this shit before everything turns to hell.

Democrats go!<3

Re: Norwegian fuel supplier refuses U.S. warships over Ukraine

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As much as I'm behind Norway in this little spat, I think Putin's Arctic fleet might smell an opportunity to mess with Norway a bit more, and then who will they beg for help?

The company behind this fuel boycott is a private company and is completely independent from the state. Boycotting is not a crime.

Unless you boycott Israel in some places :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws
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