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What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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post #75

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I dunno about that, everything turns into a wildly animated gif when I’m tripping

i had a friend who told me that on high enough doses every picture becomes like a movie, you can just stare into it and imagine that whole world

You don’t need acid for that. Just imagination. That was my first entertainment as a child.

But LSD and related psychedelics are uniquely able to help one reconnect with that part of themselves.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Have no idea what variant of LSD I last consumed, but I remember some deep feelings of profound thoughts and self-reflection quite almost instantly when the stuff "hit" (maybe 30-45 minutes after ingestion), I was still cognizant enough to be able to write it all down. Some of what I wrote was indeed stuff I needed to work on in my own life and it was pretty helpful. I then spent the next like 12 hours on my couch re…

This is baffling to me. I recall this comment from the last week but it currently reads "4 hours ago". Algolia also shows it posted "4 days ago". Some sort of reposting functionality? Considering the topic, it made me consider if I was having intense deja vu.

this was posted a few days ago. Submissions get second chances and their timestamps are updated.

this says 4 days ago:

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=What%20do%20people%20see%20whe...

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Here's a novel AI safety thought: Will AI need medicines to remain mentally healthy and sane? Will it enjoy tripping? Will it eventually fix itself to remain in touch with reality in all circumstances?

https://github.com/EGjoni/DRUGS

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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On what basis are you comparing?

what basis would you recommend? Given the rate that chatbots engaging in making stuff up you can't just ask them. At least as humans we can take the substance ourselves to verify there's something happening. I think there will always be an insurmountable barrier to deciding if computers can be conscious, at least in our lifetimes. We're not even sure other humans experience similar consciousness.

I didn't make the claim and have no interest in defending or building it.

FWIW I appreciate the epistemic humility.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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post #6

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Sometimes it just hits in such a way that you have no idea wtf is happening. One time I couldn't read because letters just didn't have meaning any more. It looked like alien unicode characters or some shit.

Isn't that kinda scary? I mean when some parts of your brains don't work or not work properly?

HAving had a similar experience, I have found it somewhat useful.

I've often found that my brain hasn't been working or working properly, and it's good to know that a) that happens, b) it can be transitory and c) even when it feels like it's working, I might still be fooled.

As I grow older, it's been a lot more difficult speak in absolutes.

At the same time, the contrast to observing when my brain actually -does- do something useful has also been useful and I have felt a lot better about leaning into that feeling.

This culture is insane and will gaslight the hell out of you, as will many of its constitutive members, so having some data on what it feels like to vividly hallucinate versus to have a different view on something has been very validating.

I am sure that sounds dumb, and that there are plenty of folks (especially on this social media forum) who would say that I am probably worse off for feeling like I have a better handle on "correct" and "incorrect", but hey, "enjoy the water, boys".

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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post #4

Have no idea what variant of LSD I last consumed, but I remember some deep feelings of profound thoughts and self-reflection quite almost instantly when the stuff "hit" (maybe 30-45 minutes after ingestion), I was still cognizant enough to be able to write it all down. Some of what I wrote was indeed stuff I needed to work on in my own life and it was pretty helpful. I then spent the next like 12 hours on my couch re…

> entire concept of time “Entire” concept is stretching it, causality and entropy are not man made. If you want to look at ideas people made up that have way too much influence on our lives, you need look no further than your wallet.

> causality and entropy are not man made

Given that we fundamentally depend on our own, very human, sensory and cognitive apparatus to make any kind of judgement I have a hard time imagining a proof or even a convincing argument of this without falling back on “it’s obvious” (etc).

Yes, I am being obtuse. Sorry about that. Just for the record.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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post #4

Have no idea what variant of LSD I last consumed, but I remember some deep feelings of profound thoughts and self-reflection quite almost instantly when the stuff "hit" (maybe 30-45 minutes after ingestion), I was still cognizant enough to be able to write it all down. Some of what I wrote was indeed stuff I needed to work on in my own life and it was pretty helpful. I then spent the next like 12 hours on my couch re…

> entire concept of time “Entire” concept is stretching it, causality and entropy are not man made. If you want to look at ideas people made up that have way too much influence on our lives, you need look no further than your wallet.

If you could prove the bit about causality you'll get a Nobel prize or two.

As that would definitively declare that there's no going back in time, there's no negative mass, and perhaps philosophically--theres no free will.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is baffling to me. I recall this comment from the last week but it currently reads "4 hours ago". Algolia also shows it posted "4 days ago". Some sort of reposting functionality? Considering the topic, it made me consider if I was having intense deja vu.

this was posted a few days ago. Submissions get second chances and their timestamps are updated. this says 4 days ago: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=What%20do%20people%20see%20whe...

I didn't realize they rewrite comment timestamps.
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