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What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by uwagar »

BobbyTables2 wrote: post #5
NickC25 wrote: post #4

Have no idea what variant of LSD I last consumed, but I remember some deep feelings of profound thoughts and self-reflection quite almost instantly when the stuff "hit" (maybe 30-45 minutes after ingestion), I was still cognizant enough to be able to write it all down. Some of what I wrote was indeed stuff I needed to work on in my own life and it was pretty helpful. I then spent the next like 12 hours on my couch re…

I think watching golf on TV would make time seem pretty meaningless for a lot of people too!

i like the quiet vibes in general

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by uwagar »

dymk wrote: post #74
guardian5x wrote: post #14

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Isn't that kinda scary? I mean when some parts of your brains don't work or not work properly?

It being scary is kind of the point. Or rather, if you’re going to do LSD, you need to be in the mindset that 1) this is temporary, and you’ll feel fine tomorrow, and 2) the experience you’re about to have will be extraordinarily novel and impossible to fully describe, even after having experienced it. It’s an intense hallucinogenic, and is the most potent mind altering substance that we know of. It’s also one of the…

a category of consciousness AI cant reach.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by monktastic1 »

Traubenfuchs wrote: post #21
guardian5x wrote: post #14

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Isn't that kinda scary? I mean when some parts of your brains don't work or not work properly?

Depends on your attitude. I consider life and reality incredibly, painfully boring. That's why I LOVE alternate states of mind, even if they are scary. Nothing excites me more than the prospect of feeling thing and seeing things I have not experienced before.

> I consider life and reality incredibly, painfully boring.

Interesting. The main benefit I've gotten from psychedelics (mostly mushrooms) is that all of life / reality is impossibly miraculous -- even, paradoxically, when it seems dreadfully boring. And also that I've somehow always known this, even when it feels like I've forgotten. It's always right there, just waiting (begging) to be noticed. It's the ultimate cosmic joke.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by Etheryte »

LoganDark wrote: post #29
gwbas1c wrote: post #22

Just remember: There are a lot of chemicals that produce LSD-like effects. The farther away you are from the chemist, the less likely you know the actual drug that you're getting. This is especially the case at concerts / festivals, where the "game of telephone" might mean that you don't really know what you're taking. After reading many trip reports on Erowid for LSD, I suspect that the authors often unknowingly too…

even LSD doesn't usually work immediately . it usually takes something like 30 minutes to an hour to start having effects. i think one of my records is something like 12 hours after dosage to start feeling the effects. which i think happened because i also ate a bunch of food before taking i use LSD recreationally every 1-2 weeks or so

Checking out your profile, did you already have dissociative identity disorder before finding your way to LSD? How do you think the two interact? No judgement or implications, curious.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by eMPee584 »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #93

Here's a novel AI safety thought: Will AI need medicines to remain mentally healthy and sane? Will it enjoy tripping? Will it eventually fix itself to remain in touch with reality in all circumstances?

also, chemical substances like entheogens seem not relevant to AI now but this connection could unlock enormous educational potential once bio cell and "omnimodal" hybrid computing goes mainstream. Interesting times ahead : )

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Post by pockmarked19 »

NickC25 wrote: post #4

Have no idea what variant of LSD I last consumed, but I remember some deep feelings of profound thoughts and self-reflection quite almost instantly when the stuff "hit" (maybe 30-45 minutes after ingestion), I was still cognizant enough to be able to write it all down. Some of what I wrote was indeed stuff I needed to work on in my own life and it was pretty helpful. I then spent the next like 12 hours on my couch re…

> entire concept of time

“Entire” concept is stretching it, causality and entropy are not man made.

If you want to look at ideas people made up that have way too much influence on our lives, you need look no further than your wallet.

Re: What do people see when they're tripping? Analyzing Erowid's trip reports

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Post by eMPee584 »

dylan604 wrote: post #64
LoganDark wrote: post #43

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> Fortunately, the fire brigade showed up quickly to quench the very real flames, without us having to ring them. imagine calling them like "my friend and i are both on lsd and we are both seeing that house on fire so could you check it out please in case it's real" a trick i use sometimes is to check my phone camera to see if it also sees the same thing

until you hit the generative AI camera mode because, well, you're tripping, and it hears your description of the fire and adds flames to your image. In the words of Neo, "whoa!"

plentiful whoas ahead x D

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Post by mdhen »

ge96 wrote: post #47
btwitch wrote: post #46

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> I have not done LSD or mushrooms as I have a bad childhood/repressed memories and I worry of having a bad trip. That's a reasonable stance. I've found "bad" trips on both to be incredibly healing, nevertheless. I'm sure the outcome depends largely on your state of mind at the onset. Combining with MDMA could take the edge off bad memories that come up and grant space for processing them directly.

What do you think about doing it with a sober friend to control you? I guess you could be alone in a room and they monitor you if you need help. Also micro-dose. It's funny the movie Jobs 2013 it shows him doing acid and he's in the field, I'm like "Oh if I do acid I can be like Steve Jobs" not serious but was wondering maybe... unlocks your brain somehow.

benzos end LSD trips, so if you are worried about a bad trip, just have a xanax with you when you do it and if you want out, take one and in 30 minutes you will be okay.

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Post by anonym29 »

devmor wrote: post #57
raducu wrote: post #16

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> deep feelings of profound thoughts. I remember dreaming about profound answers and equations about everything and being extatic in my dreams in uni. Then I woke up and wrote down what I dreamt and realize it was just garbage :). The same this one time I was traveling with friends and bought some very dubious hashish and smoked it and I got incredible visuals where I could see, open-eye a matrix of videos starting f…

I had similar experiences the first time I tried a recreational drug - it was with my father and we watched Nova on PBS. We spent hours convinced we had novel theories on spacetime and wrote them down, believing we had stumbled upon revolutionary scientific insight. When we reviewed them in the morning they were absolute nonsense!

I believe it is a misapplication of entheogens to try solving "IQ problems" with them. I've found them to be incredibly valuable for personal development and solving "EQ problems" - the kind that my sober mind didn't ordinarily process much at all by default, being on the autism spectrum. Psychedelics for me allowed me to become intensely aware and attuned to the emotional and psychological state of others and allows me to imagine myself in their shoes and empathize with their struggles in life (even if entirely unrelated to anything I've ever personally experienced). This altered state of mind introduced me to an entirely new way of thinking that had led to me being a kinder, more compassionate, more considerate, more socially capable person in a persistent, lasting way that has long outlived the psychoactive effects of the psychedelics.

Psychedelic culture has this notion of "reintegration", where in the week(s) after a trip it can take some time to fully internalize the epiphanies and lessons from the trip. During my first reintegration, I realized that I kinda used to interact with everyone in the world in a manner roughly analogous to really advanced NPCs in a role playing game I was forced into called life, and had no realization that I was doing this and lacked full appreciation for the depth of other people as human beings for the first quarter century and change of my life.

Accordingly, I see psychedelics as a profound tool of interpersonal growth and development, but never the kind of thing I'd take to try solving a vexing technical problem - that's a different job that takes a different tool.

PS to anyone else reading: this should not be taken as an endorsement or recommendation for anyone to attempt to procure and use psychedelics. There are serious mental health risks involved for vulnerable populations, risks of contaminated or laced products if procured from untrustworthy or disreputable sources, and more. If you are unsure of whether you're a part of certain vulnerable populations, I'd urge you to consult with a qualified, licensed therapist or mental healthcare provider to get a less-biased second opinion on whether or not you're at elevated risk, just to be sure, but remember this is just one of several risks.

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