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Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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What about AT&T? Will the FCC force them to stop charging too, or is there some reason why it's different?

It seems like the ruling was based off of particular regulations for the 4G (LTE) spectrum. I have a feeling it would not apply to 3G spectrum.

AT&T has LTE as well FWIW.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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This is the sort of price/service regulation that superficially appears beneficial to consumers... but might not be pro-consumer in its total effects.

In particular, it could mean customers who would never use tethering wind up paying incrementally more, because all plans now include that capability, and Verizon still has sufficient pricing power make up the loss from tethering fees with other incremental fee increases.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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Does this mean that they can simply charge more for the base fee instead?

Probably, they will do what they are currently doing but in a different way. For example, offering tiers based on data usage: under 100MB plan (aka non-tethering) for $n; over 100MB plan (aka tethering) for $5n.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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I'm on the fence on this one because it doesn't prevent going up on all data plans. Which will just increase Verizon's revenue and probably not cost them much. However, I'm not advocating price controls.

But I know how to solve this. Someone needs to become the defacto wireless network that focuses on the network (reliability, bandwidth) and doesn't deal with consumers. Instead they resell to companies who deal with consumers.

Wonder if I could do a KS campaign...

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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This is the sort of price/service regulation that superficially appears beneficial to consumers... but might not be pro-consumer in its total effects. In particular, it could mean customers who would never use tethering wind up paying incrementally more, because all plans now include that capability, and Verizon still has sufficient pricing power make up the loss from tethering fees with other incremental fee increas…

How does it matter if I use data for my phone or my computer? To some extent I agree that this would end up costing higher when the carrier has unlimited data. But even there, if more people start "misusing" the connection (download songs, movies?) the price is going to go up and you don't need tethering to do that.

To give you a perspective: Tethering is available in India with every single connection. You just need a supporting phone (USB or WiFi). The plans are all capped there but so are most plans here. You guys seriously have to wake up and realise that you are severely restricted on everything from which phones you can buy to how you use your phone and what apps are installed. I mean, seriously!

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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post #13

This is the sort of price/service regulation that superficially appears beneficial to consumers... but might not be pro-consumer in its total effects. In particular, it could mean customers who would never use tethering wind up paying incrementally more, because all plans now include that capability, and Verizon still has sufficient pricing power make up the loss from tethering fees with other incremental fee increas…

While I don't disagree that carriers will find new ways to bleed consumers dry I don't think that is a reason to not be ecstatic about this decision. If we held on to your logic it would enable companies to disregard laws or contracts they entered into for their sole benefit.

Re: Let my Wi-Fi go: FCC rules Verizon can't charge for Wi-Fi tethering

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This is the sort of price/service regulation that superficially appears beneficial to consumers... but might not be pro-consumer in its total effects. In particular, it could mean customers who would never use tethering wind up paying incrementally more, because all plans now include that capability, and Verizon still has sufficient pricing power make up the loss from tethering fees with other incremental fee increas…

This analysis holds up to "unlimited" plans where "tethering" is really a (poor) proxy for "using a lot of data."

But if you have usage-based pricing (which Verizon does), it doesn't matter whether that 4GB originates from an iPhone or a MBP. A packet is a packet and it costs the same to route.

I suppose you could argue that Verizon incurs some additional support burden for tethering. I question whether or not this support burden outweighs the costs of supporting people who call in expecting to be able to tether now.

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