Why would they have soldered RAM? Isn't that antithetical to their mission?
Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
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Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#202> soldered-down CPU and GPU and soldered-down, non-upgradeable RAM.
They’ve brought some of the traditional modularity from desktop into the laptop world, and now bring us typical laptop design to the desktop world.
Keeping things in perfect balance.
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#203Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...
> ...the first Framework Laptop 12 motherboard is going to use Intel's 13th-generation Core i3 and i5 processors I _really_ hope they launch an AMD version (perhaps with an iGPU) soon after that. That and preferably with Libreboot support. This would make it the ideal portable laptop for me and thus I'd be able to (finally!) replace my X220T.
Why would you prefer AMD? price, heat/fan noise?
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#204One interesting angle here could be if this had good compatibility with SteamOS to the point where it supported most/all the games the Steam Deck does. That would make it a very appealing offering, since right now DIY SteamOS setups are a pretty wild west.
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Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#205Framework’s current policy in Asia—limiting deliveries solely to Taiwan—warrants reconsideration. Due to these restrictions, I had no choice but to purchase Apple products instead. To prevent further customer dissatisfaction, Framework should re-evaluate its shipping policies. I understand that Framework’s logistics cannot match those of major retailers like Amazon or AliExpress. However, many customers rely on freig…
This is to comply with the ever changing export restrictions enacted by the current US administration. So don’t expect it to change soon.
That sounds misleading. The parent comment says all deliveries in Asia are limited to Taiwan. As far as I'm aware, export restrictions are only placed on certain chips going to China.
How do export restrictions prevent Framework from shipping to i.e Japan?
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think their ethos is more about being user- and developer- friendly. RAM upgrades at reasonable prices, being able to buy the main board sans case, and supporting multiple OSes all point in that direction, without strictly being modular
> RAM upgrades at reasonable prices… The RAM is not upgradable.
Parent clearly means upgrade at time-of-purchase.
FTA:
> Because the memory is non-upgradeable, we’re being deliberate in making memory pricing more reasonable than you might find with other brands.
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
CF can only handle static websites, I suspect the issue the store-backend side not being able to catch up.
The 12 isn't even up for preorder, but its landing page is gated by Cloudflare all the same.
site just loaded for me and its just a marketing page.
I bet the waiting room makes it worse, since it cannot cache the page due to having the waiting room.
also the page has `via2.0 heroku-router' header.
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#208Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...
I don’t quite get why framework focuses so much on Intel and AMD. ARM laptops are in the rise, and don’t need active cooling. It’s hard for me to think of upgrading to another laptop with fans when so many fanless (I.e.: silent) options are available.
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#209Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...
Yet another 1080p garbage screen. Please! I had tablets with higher DPI 10 years ago!
It's likely chosen for cost. There's a couple of brand new fairly cheap laptops with exactly the same screens on paper and a few other similar sized laptops that are in the ballpark.
Skimming Google, there are pretty much are no laptops 12" and higher resolution than 1080x1200 that's current nor made by Apple.
Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I still think very fondly of my 11” MacBook Air. The idea of a 12” framework laptop is very appealing.
Same here. I'm still using my 11" MacBook because it is the only one that fits in my handbag :)
I had a coat with large side pockets just big enough to fit the 11" air. Not that I would ever use them for that, but it sure felt nice to have the option...