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Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...

Yet another 1080p garbage screen. Please! I had tablets with higher DPI 10 years ago!

1920x1200 / 16:10. It's perfect for a 12" IMO.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the entire purpose of a CDN like cloudflare to enable bursts like that?

CF can only handle static websites, I suspect the issue the store-backend side not being able to catch up.

I should still be able to click around the pages to browse the products, even if full cart functionality isn't there.

Whoever is in charge of that website gets an L.

For that matter, it makes me reconsider my hosting of things with Cloudflare. I know nothing about framework's site's configuration, but I know I don't want my site to have a waiting line like that.

edit: also, the timer went down and then went back up, so I have thoughts about this enterprise Cloudflare feature.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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One interesting angle here could be if this had good compatibility with SteamOS to the point where it supported most/all the games the Steam Deck does. That would make it a very appealing offering, since right now DIY SteamOS setups are a pretty wild west.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...

I wonder if the 12-inch form factor could be modified to support a 360 deg hinge? I enjoyed the Lenovo Yoga's tablet configuration.

It is a 360 hinge.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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It seems unframeworky Memory, CPU and GPU once piece of metal, sitting in a tiny box. A regular PC in a regular case, it a lot more modular and upgradable. It does seem like an interesting box, and matches against Apple Studio I would presume. Yet customers of Apple are used to having (near) 0 user modifiable parts. It might well have a good market, It might b a great box. It is unframeworky.

https://youtu.be/-lErGZZgUbY The ceo kind of explains why in this video. In essence it seems to be a limitation of the chip from AMD

So don't make it then? If a particular vendor's product isn't in line with the company's mission, the CEO is the one to make the call to proceed with manufacturing.

edit: it's not for me and I can totally just not buy one, but if one identified with their original mission and sees this as betrayal of that, it'd be hard to justify getting a framework laptop when it's their turn to upgrade.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Why this over a traditional ATX work station? The article even points out the motherboard will fit in an ATX case, so size doesn't seem to be the major selling point.

For gaming specifically, so many micro ATX motherboards offer Gen 5 PCIe, which can handle a proper video card, double the RAM, and the smaller cases are only slightly larger than this Framework.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing to note on the more RAM: for the 128GB option, my understanding is that the GPU is limited to using only 96GB [1]. In contrast, on Macs, you can safely increase this to, for example, 116GB using `sysctl`. [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-beastly...

On linux, the gpu can go up to 110 GB.

Apologies, I stand corrected. Do you have a reference for this? I'm genuinely curious why the 96GB "limit" is so frequently cited - I assumed it must be a hardware limitation.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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https://frame.work/ > Your estimated wait time is 1 hour and 3 minutes. Ouch

Back to the internet of the nineties. But even then there wasn't a queue to "view" a website.

It's actually a pretty nice system when you're trying to purchase something. You have a reasonable estimate of when you'll be at the front of the queue, and when that time comes, you're more likely to be able to complete your transaction because the site isn't overwhelmed.

It would obviously be better if they could limit it to something like `store.frame.work`, rather than putting a queue in front of their entire site…

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...

I wonder if the 12-inch form factor could be modified to support a 360 deg hinge? I enjoyed the Lenovo Yoga's tablet configuration.

I know the comment you're replying to called it a "180 degree hinge", but the linked Ars Technica article states that it "flips around to the back with a flexible hinge, a la Lenovo's long-running Yoga design". This is not clear from the pictures in the article, but was on display during the livestreamed event earlier today.

Re: Framework's first desktop is a strange–but unique–mini ITX gaming PC

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Two other Framework announcements: New 12-inch laptop form factor with 360 degree hinge (ie "tablet mode") and a touchscreen. No price announced, but it is aimed at students: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/frameworks-laptop-12... New mainboard upgrade options for Framework 13 models: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/02/framework-gives-its-...

Reserved one of the updated base model 13’s. Battery life for this gen of Ryzen seems solid in other laptops so I’m hoping it’ll do reasonably well at stretching the FW13’s 61Wh battery for low intensity tasks, particularly in power save mode under Linux.

I wish they let us get rid of the pointless speakers and get a few more whs of battery instead.
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