How things have changed.
> In a statement Apple said it was "gravely disappointed"
So are we, Apple. So are we.
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How things have changed.
> In a statement Apple said it was "gravely disappointed"
So are we, Apple. So are we.
I have a naive question, and it's genuine curiosity, not a defence of what's happening here. This ADP feature has only existed for a couple of years, right? I understand people are mad that it's now gone, but why weren't people mad _before_ it existed? For like, a decade? Why do people treat iCloud as immediately dangerous now, if they didn't before? Did they think it was fully encrypted when it wasn't? Did people no…
Too right, it was far more problematic than they ever made out. > The UK government's demand came through a "technical capability notice" under the Investigatory Powers Act (IPA), requiring Apple to create a backdoor that would allow British security officials to access encrypted user data globally. The order would have compromised Apple's Advanced Data Protection feature, which provides end-to-end encryption for iCl…
how much distance between 1) tech monopoly strong enough to stand up to G7 nation state demands 2) tech monopoly strong enough to remove itself from G7 nation state jurisdiction? edit: s/monopoly/empire, apologies
Really disappointed that our government decided to take such a stance. What are people using when self-hosting services in the scope of iCloud nowadays? Nextcloud seems the closest comparable service.
A great time for all people to jump to android IMO and experience the freedom of choice it gives you.
Can someone explain what's changed in the UK that they would consider requesting unfettered access to all Apple customer data (including outside their own borders)? I get that the NSA is infamous for warrant-less surveillance, but this seems a step further.
The rise of first-party end-to-end encryption has made life difficult for the security services so they just want to get rid of it.
Also historically the US government loved the UK doing all this spying because the US wasn't allowed to do a lot of it on their own citizens.
The smartphone is a terrible platform. Something like this could never happen on the PC, where you can install any encryption and backup software that you want. While Apple did the right thing by refusing to give the UK government a backdoor, they are responsible for getting users in this situation in the first place. I'm not familiar with the iPhone and maybe there is already an alternative to iCloud ADP, although t…
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There is no alternative really as only iCloud can back-up your settings, saved networks, and apps data. Other apps like Nextcloud, can only backup documents (those not in apps) and pictures, because there's an API for this. iTunes backup is an option, but it's not automatic and convenient.
Is that true? Only iCloud can back up an iPhone? They dont provide any way to even extract an encrypted archive so you can keep it safe for yourself? I get more and more amazed at Apples lock in tactics. This is why I own nothing Apple, and have complete control over everything in my digital world.
I have a naive question, and it's genuine curiosity, not a defence of what's happening here. This ADP feature has only existed for a couple of years, right? I understand people are mad that it's now gone, but why weren't people mad _before_ it existed? For like, a decade? Why do people treat iCloud as immediately dangerous now, if they didn't before? Did they think it was fully encrypted when it wasn't? Did people no…
I 100% treated iCloud as dangerous until they released it, and I cheered in the streets when they finally did.
What are you actually supposed to do in the UK if you oppose this sort of thing to stop laws like this coming in? It feels like the government has been incredibly out of touch for the last number of years.